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Its our own fault for embracing those shitty walled-garden apps. But honestly - they're not trying to appeal to us. Every time I get stressed at the Googlemons

Its our own fault for embracing those shitty walled-garden apps. But honestly - they're not trying to appeal to us. Every time I get stressed at the Googlemonster or Facecrook I remember that all I have to do is press delete and use something else. edit: these apps are built for 1. people who don't / didn't care in the first place 2. noobs 3. my parents 4. advertisers wallets

colanderman 11y ago
It doesn't matter what we do. It's the network that counts, and Google, Facebook, Apple, and Twitter know this. They have my friends, and they don't let me communicate with them unless I use their apps with an identity under their domain. At least text messaging is still federated with portable identities. Took an act of the Feds to ensure that…
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  Heh, Trillian and Pidgin worked pretty well before the newest batch of walled gardens. Whatever happened to reverse engineering for interoperability?
  - colanderman 11y ago
    Permanent user bans: http://androidcommunity.com/whatsapp-issues-permanent-ban-on-users-with-3rd-party-apps-20150306/ http://androidcommunity.com/whatsapp-issues-permanent-ban-on...
    - dest 11y ago
      I you can hack other's people accounts, it seems a good opportunity to force people out of WhatsApp. Just hack a guy's phone and connect him to WhatsApp through a third party client, get him permanently banned, and voilà!
  - simgidacav 11y ago
    Actually we see attempts to extend libpurple with many recent protocols. For instance telegram works on pidgin AFAIK, and I could recently see se a Tox plugin. Clearly we cannot play a fair game with the closed whatsapp, but hacking cannot be stopped or forbidden. After all, it was always like that. If you go back of 10 years al "regular people" had MSN and similar stuff, and we were IRCing. As a hacker, you migth feel sad, and think openness lost the war. IMHO the only difference is that nowadays we have much more "regular people" than before. They were simply sms-ing before they could access whatsapp.

colanderman 11y ago

It doesn't matter what we do. It's the network that counts, and Google, Facebook, Apple, and Twitter know this. They have my friends, and they don't let me communicate with them unless I use their apps with an identity under their domain. At least text messaging is still federated with portable identities. Took an act of the Feds to ensure that…

voltagex_ 11y ago
Heh, Trillian and Pidgin worked pretty well before the newest batch of walled gardens. Whatever happened to reverse engineering for interoperability?
- colanderman 11y ago
  Permanent user bans: http://androidcommunity.com/whatsapp-issues-permanent-ban-on-users-with-3rd-party-apps-20150306/ http://androidcommunity.com/whatsapp-issues-permanent-ban-on...
  - dest 11y ago
    I you can hack other's people accounts, it seems a good opportunity to force people out of WhatsApp. Just hack a guy's phone and connect him to WhatsApp through a third party client, get him permanently banned, and voilà!
- simgidacav 11y ago
  Actually we see attempts to extend libpurple with many recent protocols. For instance telegram works on pidgin AFAIK, and I could recently see se a Tox plugin. Clearly we cannot play a fair game with the closed whatsapp, but hacking cannot be stopped or forbidden. After all, it was always like that. If you go back of 10 years al "regular people" had MSN and similar stuff, and we were IRCing. As a hacker, you migth feel sad, and think openness lost the war. IMHO the only difference is that nowadays we have much more "regular people" than before. They were simply sms-ing before they could access whatsapp.