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I'm the first to admit I'm musically illierate but how likely is it that no one has never played a (simple?) six second beat like that before? I don't know wha

by DougN7 11y ago

I'm the first to admit I'm musically illierate but how likely is it that no one has never played a (simple?) six second beat like that before? I don't know what drum music looks like on paper but six seconds can't have so much information content that it hasn't been hit upon by others in the past, can it?

mdda 11y ago
The words "I" "have" "a" "dream" take less than six seconds to say, so surely that information content has been hit upon by others in the past... As someone else has posted, there's a great documentary about the whole sampling/resampling scene that explains a bit about the attractions of this particular sonic segment : Suffice to say, there's a lot more to it than just a 1-2-3-4 pattern.
- SixSigma 11y ago
  Funny you should mention that, the mlk family retain copyright of the recording, after a lawsuit with CBS, of that speech which is why you don't hear it in full. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream Though I suspect you know that already.
skwosh 11y ago
It is kind of absurd. Music is intrinsically about reuse, recycling, and reinvention [1]. Sampling is really just a continuation of that. [1] Axis of Awesome, The Four Chord Song, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
robotresearcher 11y ago
People are not copying the composed phrase, they are using the performance directly. The original audio recording is sampled, processed and replayed as a component of a new song.
Synaesthesia 11y ago
It's a very punchy, very energetic fill or break that's just proven extremely versatile and great sounding, especially for drum and bass. It just sounds good! There are some other very famous breaks too, the Funky Drummer for example.
rvense 11y ago
Recordings are copyrighted. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the Winstons own the pattern, just that they deserve more compensation for this particular rendering of it.
aikah 11y ago
it's not just about the notes that are being played, but also the specific sound of that recording. AFAIK no one has been able to reproduce that exact sound , with the exact timing. That beat launched an entire kind of music (90's UK hardcore techno, then jungle/drum'n'bass)

by DougN7 11y ago

mdda 11y ago

The words "I" "have" "a" "dream" take less than six seconds to say, so surely that information content has been hit upon by others in the past... As someone else has posted, there's a great documentary about the whole sampling/resampling scene that explains a bit about the attractions of this particular sonic segment : Suffice to say, there's a lot more to it than just a 1-2-3-4 pattern.

SixSigma 11y ago
Funny you should mention that, the mlk family retain copyright of the recording, after a lawsuit with CBS, of that speech which is why you don't hear it in full. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream Though I suspect you know that already.

skwosh 11y ago

It is kind of absurd. Music is intrinsically about reuse, recycling, and reinvention [1]. Sampling is really just a continuation of that. [1] Axis of Awesome, The Four Chord Song, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

robotresearcher 11y ago

People are not copying the composed phrase, they are using the performance directly. The original audio recording is sampled, processed and replayed as a component of a new song.

Synaesthesia 11y ago

It's a very punchy, very energetic fill or break that's just proven extremely versatile and great sounding, especially for drum and bass. It just sounds good! There are some other very famous breaks too, the Funky Drummer for example.

rvense 11y ago

Recordings are copyrighted. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the Winstons own the pattern, just that they deserve more compensation for this particular rendering of it.

aikah 11y ago

it's not just about the notes that are being played, but also the specific sound of that recording. AFAIK no one has been able to reproduce that exact sound , with the exact timing. That beat launched an entire kind of music (90's UK hardcore techno, then jungle/drum'n'bass)