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and people still reach for their phones to use the calculator even when they were already operating a mind bogglingly quick calculating machine. Or even get up

and people still reach for their phones to use the calculator even when they were already operating a mind bogglingly quick calculating machine. Or even get up to go find a desk calculator!

eru 11y ago
> Or even get up to go find a desk calculator! They are used to its UI.
- ddingus 11y ago
  Yep. Took me forever to be rid of the dedicated calculator for exactly that reason.
- gaius 11y ago
  Yep. For any calculation of up to a dozen or so numbers it's far easier, quicker and more pleasant to use my HP than the computer, and even more so when in a meeting or on the phone. UI matters, physical interfaces matter. http://aviation.stackexchange.com/q/22729/8205 http://aviation.stackexchange.com/q/22729/8205
  - eru 11y ago
    Knobs are awesome. I lament their passing in eg car radio and car aircon UI, and in microwaves.
    - deleted 11y ago
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    - jacquesm 11y ago
      Pilots lament their passing in the cockpit. Plenty of readings and buttons that were available instantly are now only available after the perusal of menus used to multiplex a single display or button across many readings or actuators.
  - ggreer 11y ago
    I used to use a TI-83+, but now I've gotten into the habit of opening a Python or Node.js REPL for math. That way, I can copy-paste values to and from emails or chat. It also helps that I already know the syntax and math libs. I tried bc[1] as well, but it has some really annoying defaults. For example: While it's capable of arbitrary precision, it calculates out to zero decimal places unless you tell it otherwise. 1. https://www.gnu.org/software/bc/ https://www.gnu.org/software/bc/
    - gaius 11y ago
      I've tried that but for me a REPL for calculating occupies an annoying middle ground: not as efficient as a calculator for quick calculations and not as powerful as say MathCAD for exploratory work. IPython's a step in the right direction.
    - eru 11y ago
      I always start it as "bc -l". On some computers I have alias bc to that option.
    - justinhj 11y ago
      Emacs calc is convenient and very full featured to say the least
  - Zardoz84 11y ago
    I keep using sometimes my old Casio FX-85MS . I only need to change the power cell one time in all this years since I bought like 12 years ago

and people still reach for their phones to use the calculator even when they were already operating a mind bogglingly quick calculating machine. Or even get up to go find a desk calculator!

eru 11y ago

> Or even get up to go find a desk calculator! They are used to its UI.

ddingus 11y ago
Yep. Took me forever to be rid of the dedicated calculator for exactly that reason.
gaius 11y ago
Yep. For any calculation of up to a dozen or so numbers it's far easier, quicker and more pleasant to use my HP than the computer, and even more so when in a meeting or on the phone. UI matters, physical interfaces matter. http://aviation.stackexchange.com/q/22729/8205 http://aviation.stackexchange.com/q/22729/8205
- eru 11y ago
  Knobs are awesome. I lament their passing in eg car radio and car aircon UI, and in microwaves.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - jacquesm 11y ago
    Pilots lament their passing in the cockpit. Plenty of readings and buttons that were available instantly are now only available after the perusal of menus used to multiplex a single display or button across many readings or actuators.
- ggreer 11y ago
  I used to use a TI-83+, but now I've gotten into the habit of opening a Python or Node.js REPL for math. That way, I can copy-paste values to and from emails or chat. It also helps that I already know the syntax and math libs. I tried bc[1] as well, but it has some really annoying defaults. For example: While it's capable of arbitrary precision, it calculates out to zero decimal places unless you tell it otherwise. 1. https://www.gnu.org/software/bc/ https://www.gnu.org/software/bc/
  - gaius 11y ago
    I've tried that but for me a REPL for calculating occupies an annoying middle ground: not as efficient as a calculator for quick calculations and not as powerful as say MathCAD for exploratory work. IPython's a step in the right direction.
  - eru 11y ago
    I always start it as "bc -l". On some computers I have alias bc to that option.
  - justinhj 11y ago
    Emacs calc is convenient and very full featured to say the least
- Zardoz84 11y ago
  I keep using sometimes my old Casio FX-85MS . I only need to change the power cell one time in all this years since I bought like 12 years ago