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The article we are currently discussing is a good place to start though there are certainly others if you care to look (in academia at least).

by wfo 11y ago

__derek__ 11y ago
Maybe I'm taking your use of "career-destroying" too literally. This dean will surely have no trouble finding another job.
- wfo 11y ago
  I hope so and I think it's certainly possible, but 'publicly forced to resign for being a racist' being the first thing that shows up when a university official googles your name might make it a rough hire. These positions are high-publicity and the student body is the same everywhere. But I'm encouraged by your optimism -- perhaps I should have said 'job-destroying' instead, because it is inarguably that.
  - __derek__ 11y ago
    I mean, yes, it may invite some uncomfortable conversations in the future. This isn't the first time that someone has been forced to resign for problematic statements, and I honestly can't think of anyone who has been totally shut-out because of them. Once you reach the higher levels (e.g., dean of a very prestigious liberal arts college), the landings become quite soft (even when they ought to be hard). Anyway, I'm on-board with your suggestion of "job-destroying."
    - belovedeagle 11y ago
      This is the same argument that's used by people advocating expelling ten [white, straight, cis, male] students for the same purported crime. "It's okay to leverage overwhelming power to commit outrageous acts of injustice toward so-called privileged persons because they'll just wave the magic priviledge wand to make everything better." This argument only serves to dehumanize the out-group which has been labeled as "priviledged"; it's a modern witch-hunt.
      - rdancer 11y ago
        The present argument is whether the which hunt would prevent them from advancing their career in the same field. It is contended that it never does really. Sure it is a dick move, but that's not being disputed.
pizza 11y ago
As someone going to one of the 5Cs, some of my CMC friends have said that Dean Spellman's resignation was something that some students had been actively pursuing at least since last year, so I'd argue it's hardly a result of the mere implication of racism.
- kelukelugames 11y ago
  Do you have any context? I googled and couldn't find any.

The article we are currently discussing is a good place to start though there are certainly others if you care to look (in academia at least).

by wfo 11y ago

The article we are currently discussing is a good place to start though there are certainly others if you care to look (in academia at least).

__derek__ 11y ago

Maybe I'm taking your use of "career-destroying" too literally. This dean will surely have no trouble finding another job.

wfo 11y ago
I hope so and I think it's certainly possible, but 'publicly forced to resign for being a racist' being the first thing that shows up when a university official googles your name might make it a rough hire. These positions are high-publicity and the student body is the same everywhere. But I'm encouraged by your optimism -- perhaps I should have said 'job-destroying' instead, because it is inarguably that.
- __derek__ 11y ago
  I mean, yes, it may invite some uncomfortable conversations in the future. This isn't the first time that someone has been forced to resign for problematic statements, and I honestly can't think of anyone who has been totally shut-out because of them. Once you reach the higher levels (e.g., dean of a very prestigious liberal arts college), the landings become quite soft (even when they ought to be hard). Anyway, I'm on-board with your suggestion of "job-destroying."
  - belovedeagle 11y ago
    This is the same argument that's used by people advocating expelling ten [white, straight, cis, male] students for the same purported crime. "It's okay to leverage overwhelming power to commit outrageous acts of injustice toward so-called privileged persons because they'll just wave the magic priviledge wand to make everything better." This argument only serves to dehumanize the out-group which has been labeled as "priviledged"; it's a modern witch-hunt.
    - rdancer 11y ago
      The present argument is whether the which hunt would prevent them from advancing their career in the same field. It is contended that it never does really. Sure it is a dick move, but that's not being disputed.

pizza 11y ago

As someone going to one of the 5Cs, some of my CMC friends have said that Dean Spellman's resignation was something that some students had been actively pursuing at least since last year, so I'd argue it's hardly a result of the mere implication of racism.

kelukelugames 11y ago
Do you have any context? I googled and couldn't find any.