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Except we shouldn't, because about 98% of people can't keep their devices secure, at all, if root is just floating around aimlessly for any apps to grab any pri

by Bud 11y ago

Except we shouldn't, because about 98% of people can't keep their devices secure, at all, if root is just floating around aimlessly for any apps to grab any privs. The security record of Android vs iOS illustrates this extremely well. The gatekeeper model works for mobile devices.

Nullabillity 11y ago
And a brick of clay is even more secure. That doesn't mean it's a replacement for a computer. Not that Apple has a particularly great security track record anyway. Remember jailbreakme.com?
- Bud 11y ago
  Why would we possibly care about jailbreakme.com, or think that any security issue involving an intentionally-jailbroken phone would in any way reflect on Apple? Are you seriously bringing up stuff that was patched in iOS 1.1.2? Dude. It's 2015. Also, it's really quite clear that the iPhone and iOS devices in general are, in fact, THE replacement for computers for hundreds of millions of users. So I don't think we really need to waste time debating that. Apple won. Apple succeeded in making a device which is useful for that purpose.
  - Nullabillity 11y ago
    > Why would we possibly care about jailbreakme.com, or think that any security issue involving an intentionally-jailbroken phone would in any way reflect on Apple? Except JBM was based on exploits in the official firmware, that the jailbreak would fix. > Are you seriously bringing up stuff that was patched in iOS 1.1.2? Dude. It's 2015. 4.3.4. > Also, it's really quite clear that the iPhone and iOS devices in general are, in fact, THE replacement for computers for hundreds of millions of users. So I don't think we really need to waste time debating that. Apple won. Apple succeeded in making a device which is useful for that purpose. According to IDC[1] their market share is ~14%. I'd hardly call that winning. 1: http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
lostgame 11y ago
How about this: the option should exist? With a warning, that says, clearly 'this can seriously f••• up your phone'?

by Bud 11y ago

Nullabillity 11y ago

And a brick of clay is even more secure. That doesn't mean it's a replacement for a computer. Not that Apple has a particularly great security track record anyway. Remember jailbreakme.com?

Bud 11y ago
Why would we possibly care about jailbreakme.com, or think that any security issue involving an intentionally-jailbroken phone would in any way reflect on Apple? Are you seriously bringing up stuff that was patched in iOS 1.1.2? Dude. It's 2015. Also, it's really quite clear that the iPhone and iOS devices in general are, in fact, THE replacement for computers for hundreds of millions of users. So I don't think we really need to waste time debating that. Apple won. Apple succeeded in making a device which is useful for that purpose.
- Nullabillity 11y ago
  > Why would we possibly care about jailbreakme.com, or think that any security issue involving an intentionally-jailbroken phone would in any way reflect on Apple? Except JBM was based on exploits in the official firmware, that the jailbreak would fix. > Are you seriously bringing up stuff that was patched in iOS 1.1.2? Dude. It's 2015. 4.3.4. > Also, it's really quite clear that the iPhone and iOS devices in general are, in fact, THE replacement for computers for hundreds of millions of users. So I don't think we really need to waste time debating that. Apple won. Apple succeeded in making a device which is useful for that purpose. According to IDC[1] their market share is ~14%. I'd hardly call that winning. 1: http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

lostgame 11y ago

How about this: the option should exist? With a warning, that says, clearly 'this can seriously f••• up your phone'?