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Indeed history repeating itself. Book burning started on college campuses as well. Not necessarily the Hitler Jugend, but Fascism was also considered an "intel

Indeed history repeating itself. Book burning started on college campuses as well. Not necessarily the Hitler Jugend, but Fascism was also considered an "intellectual movement" in its heydays, very popular on college campuses with perfectly well-meaning people.

_delirium 11y ago
I don't think you're correct on that point historically. Fascism was mainly a lower-class phenomenon, not really rooted in universities or intellectuals. There were certainly a handful of intellectuals who did align with it (esoteric pagan types in the Völkisch movement, some racial theorists, and a handful of philosophers), but it wasn't their main base. For one thing, German universities at the time had a quite large proportion of Jewish faculty and students, who for obvious reasons were not sympathetic to the Nazis. And even the right-wing part of the intellectual milieu mostly aligned with the older conservative parties, not with the Nazis, who they saw as uncouth rabble. As a result, the Nazis had to impose themselves on universities against considerable resistance, and to do so had to fire a large proportion of the faculty, and then appoint a bunch of its own functionaries to replace them. There's a reason Hitler gave speeches in places like beer halls, not the University of Munich.
- vlehto 11y ago
  Fascism and Nazism are not the same thing. Nazism is subset of Fascism. Which is lot more international phenomena. And it has had limited support in various places. My home country fostered few Fascists movements before and during WWII. One of them included lots of people from academia. While curiously there is no mention anywhere that they would have persecuted domestic ethnic minorities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_People's_Movement_%28Finland%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_People's_Movement_%2...

_delirium 11y ago

I don't think you're correct on that point historically. Fascism was mainly a lower-class phenomenon, not really rooted in universities or intellectuals. There were certainly a handful of intellectuals who did align with it (esoteric pagan types in the Völkisch movement, some racial theorists, and a handful of philosophers), but it wasn't their main base. For one thing, German universities at the time had a quite large proportion of Jewish faculty and students, who for obvious reasons were not sympathetic to the Nazis. And even the right-wing part of the intellectual milieu mostly aligned with the older conservative parties, not with the Nazis, who they saw as uncouth rabble. As a result, the Nazis had to impose themselves on universities against considerable resistance, and to do so had to fire a large proportion of the faculty, and then appoint a bunch of its own functionaries to replace them. There's a reason Hitler gave speeches in places like beer halls, not the University of Munich.

vlehto 11y ago
Fascism and Nazism are not the same thing. Nazism is subset of Fascism. Which is lot more international phenomena. And it has had limited support in various places. My home country fostered few Fascists movements before and during WWII. One of them included lots of people from academia. While curiously there is no mention anywhere that they would have persecuted domestic ethnic minorities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_People's_Movement_%28Finland%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_People's_Movement_%2...