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> For some reason people like to read "kill them all" when someone says we need to deal with them once and for all. Yes, because that's what "once and for all"

> For some reason people like to read "kill them all" when someone says we need to deal with them once and for all. Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. If you didn't intend that, then my bad, but it's the common interpretation of the phrase. > I don't want to kill them, I want to never have them be a part of our world by means of segregation. Total segregation. That's simply not realistic at all. > In other words, give them a place to live where they can live by whatever rules they care to live by and be as crazy as they want to be. They already have that in the middle east, we just keep going in and killing them because we're warmongers and we think our economic interests are more important than their lives. > They --the crazy's-- don't get to live in Paris, New York, Munich or Tokyo. That's also not realistic, who gets to define "they", you're just pulling some McCarthyism all over again. Your proposed solution quite simply just isn't realistic, we live in a global society now, the economy of all nations is linked, we need to find ways to get along, not find ways to isolate which will only lead to more wars, more terrorism, and more death.

rebootthesystem 11y ago
> Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. No it isn't. Maybe to you it is. In what universe does "once and for all" mean "kill them all"? > That's simply not realistic at all. It is if the world unites against them. It's actually really simple. The problem is we don't have any leaders who would have the intestinal fortitude to make this happen. Stop buying anything from them. Stop all flights to and from their country or countries. Unplug the internet routers. Unplug any phone lines in and out, don't allowed packetized communications back and forth, or both. Do not allow financial transactions with the rest of the world, etc. Easy, no. Does it requires balls. Yup. Does it require absolute unity from the major countries in the world, including Russia and China? Without a doubt. Possible. Yes. Probable? Nearly zero. But it isn't impossible. Pressure needs to be applied in a major way so that they (their civilization) will wake up and realize they have far, far more to lose than we do. Either they clean-up their act or they get exactly what they've been asking for. They get to live by their twisted rules and ideology without any western intervention or the need interact with us in any way, a people and ideology they hate so much. We don't need them. And they don't want to accept peaceful coexistence with us. So, why do we have such a hard-on to have a relationship with them? Let. Them. Be. Maybe in 200 years they'll develop a civilization.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  > It is if the world unites against them. It is if "impossible thing happens", which means it isn't. The world doesn't unite against anything, that's not the world we live in.

rebootthesystem 11y ago

> Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. No it isn't. Maybe to you it is. In what universe does "once and for all" mean "kill them all"? > That's simply not realistic at all. It is if the world unites against them. It's actually really simple. The problem is we don't have any leaders who would have the intestinal fortitude to make this happen. Stop buying anything from them. Stop all flights to and from their country or countries. Unplug the internet routers. Unplug any phone lines in and out, don't allowed packetized communications back and forth, or both. Do not allow financial transactions with the rest of the world, etc. Easy, no. Does it requires balls. Yup. Does it require absolute unity from the major countries in the world, including Russia and China? Without a doubt. Possible. Yes. Probable? Nearly zero. But it isn't impossible. Pressure needs to be applied in a major way so that they (their civilization) will wake up and realize they have far, far more to lose than we do. Either they clean-up their act or they get exactly what they've been asking for. They get to live by their twisted rules and ideology without any western intervention or the need interact with us in any way, a people and ideology they hate so much. We don't need them. And they don't want to accept peaceful coexistence with us. So, why do we have such a hard-on to have a relationship with them? Let. Them. Be. Maybe in 200 years they'll develop a civilization.

gnaritas 11y ago
> It is if the world unites against them. It is if "impossible thing happens", which means it isn't. The world doesn't unite against anything, that's not the world we live in.