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> the same position every group who wants to wipe out another groups claims. I have no clue where you read that I want to "wipe them out". That's interesting.

> the same position every group who wants to wipe out another groups claims. I have no clue where you read that I want to "wipe them out". That's interesting. If you read my other comments you'll see I have zero interest in wiping them out. For some reason people like to read "kill them all" when someone says we need to deal with them once and for all. I don't want to kill them, I want to never have them be a part of our world by means of segregation. Total segregation. They obviously hate the western way of life. OK, well, wish granted! In other words, give them a place to live where they can live by whatever rules they care to live by and be as crazy as they want to be. They --the crazy's-- don't get to live in Paris, New York, Munich or Tokyo. The get to live in their own little part of the world and we sever all contact with them --in or out-- for 200 years. They don't get to benefit from anything the western world and cultures they so despise has to offer and we don't buy anything from them, including their oil. Closed borders, have a great time with your crazy ideology, live long and prosper. Done. I don't want to kill them. We don't need to. I want to give them exactly what they want: A place and the isolation to live by their rules. We just need them to not be a part of our society in any way. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10568450 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10568450

gnaritas 11y ago
> For some reason people like to read "kill them all" when someone says we need to deal with them once and for all. Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. If you didn't intend that, then my bad, but it's the common interpretation of the phrase. > I don't want to kill them, I want to never have them be a part of our world by means of segregation. Total segregation. That's simply not realistic at all. > In other words, give them a place to live where they can live by whatever rules they care to live by and be as crazy as they want to be. They already have that in the middle east, we just keep going in and killing them because we're warmongers and we think our economic interests are more important than their lives. > They --the crazy's-- don't get to live in Paris, New York, Munich or Tokyo. That's also not realistic, who gets to define "they", you're just pulling some McCarthyism all over again. Your proposed solution quite simply just isn't realistic, we live in a global society now, the economy of all nations is linked, we need to find ways to get along, not find ways to isolate which will only lead to more wars, more terrorism, and more death.
- rebootthesystem 11y ago
  > Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. No it isn't. Maybe to you it is. In what universe does "once and for all" mean "kill them all"? > That's simply not realistic at all. It is if the world unites against them. It's actually really simple. The problem is we don't have any leaders who would have the intestinal fortitude to make this happen. Stop buying anything from them. Stop all flights to and from their country or countries. Unplug the internet routers. Unplug any phone lines in and out, don't allowed packetized communications back and forth, or both. Do not allow financial transactions with the rest of the world, etc. Easy, no. Does it requires balls. Yup. Does it require absolute unity from the major countries in the world, including Russia and China? Without a doubt. Possible. Yes. Probable? Nearly zero. But it isn't impossible. Pressure needs to be applied in a major way so that they (their civilization) will wake up and realize they have far, far more to lose than we do. Either they clean-up their act or they get exactly what they've been asking for. They get to live by their twisted rules and ideology without any western intervention or the need interact with us in any way, a people and ideology they hate so much. We don't need them. And they don't want to accept peaceful coexistence with us. So, why do we have such a hard-on to have a relationship with them? Let. Them. Be. Maybe in 200 years they'll develop a civilization.
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    > It is if the world unites against them. It is if "impossible thing happens", which means it isn't. The world doesn't unite against anything, that's not the world we live in.

gnaritas 11y ago

> For some reason people like to read "kill them all" when someone says we need to deal with them once and for all. Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. If you didn't intend that, then my bad, but it's the common interpretation of the phrase. > I don't want to kill them, I want to never have them be a part of our world by means of segregation. Total segregation. That's simply not realistic at all. > In other words, give them a place to live where they can live by whatever rules they care to live by and be as crazy as they want to be. They already have that in the middle east, we just keep going in and killing them because we're warmongers and we think our economic interests are more important than their lives. > They --the crazy's-- don't get to live in Paris, New York, Munich or Tokyo. That's also not realistic, who gets to define "they", you're just pulling some McCarthyism all over again. Your proposed solution quite simply just isn't realistic, we live in a global society now, the economy of all nations is linked, we need to find ways to get along, not find ways to isolate which will only lead to more wars, more terrorism, and more death.

rebootthesystem 11y ago
> Yes, because that's what "once and for all" means. No it isn't. Maybe to you it is. In what universe does "once and for all" mean "kill them all"? > That's simply not realistic at all. It is if the world unites against them. It's actually really simple. The problem is we don't have any leaders who would have the intestinal fortitude to make this happen. Stop buying anything from them. Stop all flights to and from their country or countries. Unplug the internet routers. Unplug any phone lines in and out, don't allowed packetized communications back and forth, or both. Do not allow financial transactions with the rest of the world, etc. Easy, no. Does it requires balls. Yup. Does it require absolute unity from the major countries in the world, including Russia and China? Without a doubt. Possible. Yes. Probable? Nearly zero. But it isn't impossible. Pressure needs to be applied in a major way so that they (their civilization) will wake up and realize they have far, far more to lose than we do. Either they clean-up their act or they get exactly what they've been asking for. They get to live by their twisted rules and ideology without any western intervention or the need interact with us in any way, a people and ideology they hate so much. We don't need them. And they don't want to accept peaceful coexistence with us. So, why do we have such a hard-on to have a relationship with them? Let. Them. Be. Maybe in 200 years they'll develop a civilization.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  > It is if the world unites against them. It is if "impossible thing happens", which means it isn't. The world doesn't unite against anything, that's not the world we live in.