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This comment is worthless. This obsession HN has with picking apart simple details like this to achieve some sense of superiority based on your preference to na

This comment is worthless. This obsession HN has with picking apart simple details like this to achieve some sense of superiority based on your preference to name things differently is ridiculous. Judge them based on the merits of the software they write, not based on the name they use for it. After all, Linux's creator must have been an egomaniac to name it after himself - it'll never take off.

emmelaich 11y ago
The trouble is that there are many ways not to suck. It really doesn't provide much information. And my wish for them to do well really is sincere. ps 1. do you know that your comment to my comment is a self-referential? You're using the same mode as me. Which is fair enough in a way :-) 2. I assure you that I am no way representative of HN so your use of that synecdoche is misplaced.
- icebraining 11y ago
  How much information does "Google" or "YCombinator" provide? It's just a name, if you want a description, you can just go to their home page.
  - emmelaich 11y ago
    Well, Google is not called 'notYahoo' or searchThatDoesNotSuck. So that's all I'm saying. I used to do it a lot, so maybe that's why I bother commenting. Mainframers sneer at Unix. Unix people sneer at Windows. BSD people sneer at Linux. Plan9'ers sneer at Solaris. It's just so tiresome and negative.
tux1968 11y ago
The "Suckless" moniker gives a hint that they're about software quality, and is cute and playful enough that I actually like it. But having spent a few moments clicking around their site, I have literally no idea what the basic idea is, who they are, what they've accomplished, or why it might be interesting to learn more about them.
- preid24 11y ago
  Seriously? The first 2 paragraphs of the home page: Home of dwm, dmenu and other quality software with a focus on simplicity, clarity, and frugality. Read more about our philosophy and join us on the mailing list.
  - tux1968 11y ago
    Sorry, but what the heck is dwm, dmenu? Where is your philosophy statement that can be read? I'm sure everything you're doing is great, but people aren't going to join a mailing list before they at least have a real interest in what you're doing. The current web page does very little to inform someone starting from zero. At least someone as thick as me. Cheers.
    - denniskane 11y ago
      Hi, I love you. You are a normal person on HN trying to honestly make sense of the world of technology, and not taking any crap from all of the "Haha, U srsly don't know about xvzz and zxcz, LOL" types of people around here. I just love that!
      - tux1968 11y ago
        Thanks. Someone seems to think i'm filled with "ire", when all I was expressing was my genuine experience of not feeling engaged or intrigued by a website. The responses so far seem very defensive.
      - simoncion 11y ago
        It's a pity that your admiration is misplaced. tux1968 has let their ire prevent them from launching even the most basic fact finding mission. (That is, actually visiting the home page of the project about which they're asking questions.)
    - simoncion 11y ago
      > Where is your philosophy statement that can be read? This demonstrates that you did not even visit the suckless.org home page [0]. How do I know? Because the word "philosophy" in the two sentences preid24 quoted links to the very thing you're asking for. It's even a boring-old anchor-tag-link in almost-traditional hyperlink blue on traditional white that reacts on hover. > [W]hat the heck is dwm, dmenu? Also answered by the hyperlinks on the suckless home page. [0] http://suckless.org/ http://suckless.org/
icebraining 11y ago
After all, Linux's creator must have been an egomaniac to name it after himself - it'll never take off. Curiously, Linus did consider naming it "Linux" as too egotistical, and chose "Freax" instead. It was a colleague who renamed it when uploading to the FTP server. I agree with your point, by the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Naming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Naming

emmelaich 11y ago

The trouble is that there are many ways not to suck. It really doesn't provide much information. And my wish for them to do well really is sincere. ps 1. do you know that your comment to my comment is a self-referential? You're using the same mode as me. Which is fair enough in a way :-) 2. I assure you that I am no way representative of HN so your use of that synecdoche is misplaced.

icebraining 11y ago
How much information does "Google" or "YCombinator" provide? It's just a name, if you want a description, you can just go to their home page.
- emmelaich 11y ago
  Well, Google is not called 'notYahoo' or searchThatDoesNotSuck. So that's all I'm saying. I used to do it a lot, so maybe that's why I bother commenting. Mainframers sneer at Unix. Unix people sneer at Windows. BSD people sneer at Linux. Plan9'ers sneer at Solaris. It's just so tiresome and negative.

tux1968 11y ago

The "Suckless" moniker gives a hint that they're about software quality, and is cute and playful enough that I actually like it. But having spent a few moments clicking around their site, I have literally no idea what the basic idea is, who they are, what they've accomplished, or why it might be interesting to learn more about them.

preid24 11y ago
Seriously? The first 2 paragraphs of the home page: Home of dwm, dmenu and other quality software with a focus on simplicity, clarity, and frugality. Read more about our philosophy and join us on the mailing list.
- tux1968 11y ago
  Sorry, but what the heck is dwm, dmenu? Where is your philosophy statement that can be read? I'm sure everything you're doing is great, but people aren't going to join a mailing list before they at least have a real interest in what you're doing. The current web page does very little to inform someone starting from zero. At least someone as thick as me. Cheers.
  - denniskane 11y ago
    Hi, I love you. You are a normal person on HN trying to honestly make sense of the world of technology, and not taking any crap from all of the "Haha, U srsly don't know about xvzz and zxcz, LOL" types of people around here. I just love that!
    - tux1968 11y ago
      Thanks. Someone seems to think i'm filled with "ire", when all I was expressing was my genuine experience of not feeling engaged or intrigued by a website. The responses so far seem very defensive.
    - simoncion 11y ago
      It's a pity that your admiration is misplaced. tux1968 has let their ire prevent them from launching even the most basic fact finding mission. (That is, actually visiting the home page of the project about which they're asking questions.)
  - simoncion 11y ago
    > Where is your philosophy statement that can be read? This demonstrates that you did not even visit the suckless.org home page [0]. How do I know? Because the word "philosophy" in the two sentences preid24 quoted links to the very thing you're asking for. It's even a boring-old anchor-tag-link in almost-traditional hyperlink blue on traditional white that reacts on hover. > [W]hat the heck is dwm, dmenu? Also answered by the hyperlinks on the suckless home page. [0] http://suckless.org/ http://suckless.org/

icebraining 11y ago

After all, Linux's creator must have been an egomaniac to name it after himself - it'll never take off. Curiously, Linus did consider naming it "Linux" as too egotistical, and chose "Freax" instead. It was a colleague who renamed it when uploading to the FTP server. I agree with your point, by the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Naming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Naming