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I'd like to quote from http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262/ http://www.theatlantic.com/internat

by ikeboy 11y ago

I'd like to quote from http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262/ http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how...: There are banal explanations for problems with coverage—reporters are in a hurry, editors are overloaded and distracted. These are realities, and can explain small errors and mishaps like ill-conceived headlines, which is why such details don’t typically strike me as important or worth much analysis. Some say inflations and omissions are the inevitable results of an honest attempt to cover events in a challenging and occasionally dangerous reporting environment, which is what I initially believed myself. A few years on the job changed my mind. Such excuses can’t explain why the same inflations and omissions recur again and again, why they are common to so many news outlets, and why the simple “Israel story” of the international media is so foreign to people aware of the historical and regional context of events in this place. The explanation lies elsewhere. It's also pretty well documented that far more journalists are Democrats than Republicans, if that makes a difference.

hackuser 11y ago
Hey, thanks for the link. That looks very intersting and I'll read it (but it's probably too long for right this moment). What does it have to do with the New York Times though? I searched the article for references to them, and there is only one that isn't relevant to what we are talking about. > It's also pretty well documented that far more journalists are Democrats than Republicans And I assume that applies to NY Times reporters too. I agree it's a concern, but I don't think it necessarily affects people doing their jobs as professional journalists and we still need some evidence of it. Also, as I mentioned, the leading platforms in cable news, business news, and talk radio are heavily Republican; there's hardly a lack of balance. Thanks again for the link.
- ikeboy 11y ago
  What does it have to do with the New York Times though? I searched the article for references to them, and there is only one that isn't relevant to what we are talking about. My point is that even these "minor" nitpicks add up, and if they consistently point a particular way, that means something. The original NYTimes article referenced clearly played down one side, you don't get such awkward phrasing by accident. I agree it's a concern, but I don't think it necessarily affects people doing their jobs as professional journalists and we still need some evidence of it. See http://journalism.indiana.edu/general-news/news/press-release-survey-finds-u-s-journalists-less-satisfied-have-less-autonomy/ http://journalism.indiana.edu/general-news/news/press-releas... * Also, as I mentioned, the leading platforms in cable news, business news, and talk radio are heavily Republican; there's hardly a lack of balance.* The example you gave of business news is the WSJ, which http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/MediaBias.pdf http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M... finds to be more liberal than the NYTimes in news articles.
  - hackuser 11y ago
    > My point is that even these "minor" nitpicks add up ... The original NYTimes article referenced clearly played down one side I disagree on both counts, but I think I'm about to repeat myself ... > the WSJ, which http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M.. http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M.... finds to be more liberal than the NYTimes in news articles. Interesting, but that study is from before the News Corp (i.e., Rupert Murdoch, Fox News proprieter) bought it.

by ikeboy 11y ago

hackuser 11y ago

Hey, thanks for the link. That looks very intersting and I'll read it (but it's probably too long for right this moment). What does it have to do with the New York Times though? I searched the article for references to them, and there is only one that isn't relevant to what we are talking about. > It's also pretty well documented that far more journalists are Democrats than Republicans And I assume that applies to NY Times reporters too. I agree it's a concern, but I don't think it necessarily affects people doing their jobs as professional journalists and we still need some evidence of it. Also, as I mentioned, the leading platforms in cable news, business news, and talk radio are heavily Republican; there's hardly a lack of balance. Thanks again for the link.

ikeboy 11y ago
What does it have to do with the New York Times though? I searched the article for references to them, and there is only one that isn't relevant to what we are talking about. My point is that even these "minor" nitpicks add up, and if they consistently point a particular way, that means something. The original NYTimes article referenced clearly played down one side, you don't get such awkward phrasing by accident. I agree it's a concern, but I don't think it necessarily affects people doing their jobs as professional journalists and we still need some evidence of it. See http://journalism.indiana.edu/general-news/news/press-release-survey-finds-u-s-journalists-less-satisfied-have-less-autonomy/ http://journalism.indiana.edu/general-news/news/press-releas... * Also, as I mentioned, the leading platforms in cable news, business news, and talk radio are heavily Republican; there's hardly a lack of balance.* The example you gave of business news is the WSJ, which http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/MediaBias.pdf http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M... finds to be more liberal than the NYTimes in news articles.
- hackuser 11y ago
  > My point is that even these "minor" nitpicks add up ... The original NYTimes article referenced clearly played down one side I disagree on both counts, but I think I'm about to repeat myself ... > the WSJ, which http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M.. http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/pdfs/M.... finds to be more liberal than the NYTimes in news articles. Interesting, but that study is from before the News Corp (i.e., Rupert Murdoch, Fox News proprieter) bought it.