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Puppet/Chef and general admin automation scripts handle the updates/config changes/etc... very easily without the added complexity of container management/orche

• superuser2 11y ago
  Ha! I worked at [major tech company] and our Puppet runs took about 3 hours. Developing manifests was surreal - punch card era code/compile/test cycles. The worst and most frequent production outages were seemingly innocuous Puppet changes that made it through code review. Our puppet manifest was in the 10kloc range, most of them generated. Containerization is now letting individual teams manage app-specific configuration they actually understand and can test and iterate. A central org maintains the base image and can redeploy our containers with OS-level fixes as necessary. Our "self-service" deployment infrastructure was a behemoth that no one understood, documented by tribal knowledge. At less I can Google how to use the Docker API.
  • eropple 11y ago
    If your Puppet runs take three hours and range into the thousands of lines, that's a disastrously poorly built Puppet environment. Blame your people, not your tools. (And I say this as no fan of Puppet; I'm a Chef user. Where I've never seen anything remotely that deranged, even in dysfunctional environments.)
    • yo-code-sucks 11y ago
      Chef is a bruised lemon my friend!