junto said: > We could try and close all the borders... or... kick all immigrants out of our countries mbrock said: > Draconian measures... historically unsu

junto said: > We could try and close all the borders... or... kick all immigrants out of our countries mbrock said: > Draconian measures... historically unsuccessful... [establishing those measures] also grievously violates the core principles of an open and liberal society... Vehemently disagreeing with your opinion is a crucial necessity for anyone who stands for democracy and liberty. Dolores12 said: > It is actually succesful in Israel. Mbrock, I beg you to engage the argument. This is the debate we should be having. There can't be double standards. Either closing borders and kicking out immigrants "grievously violates the principles of democracy and freedom" [1] or they don't. Which is it? [1] In which case the U.S. supports a State that "grievously violates the principles of democracy and freedom" and we should stop supporting them immediately.