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If you are renting out your property, it should be safe for reasonable use. A swing being part of the rental should be safe to use in a normal manner, not to me

by vacri 11y ago

If you are renting out your property, it should be safe for reasonable use. A swing being part of the rental should be safe to use in a normal manner, not to mention that a temporary tenant cannot possibly be expected to know the maintenance history of any fittings.

jacquesm 11y ago
If I would rent a property through AirBNB (which I won't) I would expect it to be unsafe by default because that to me would seem to be the most prudent way to act. Ditto when I buy a used car, I inspect the thing end-to-end before I trust it, ditto when I buy a new place to live in (the one I just moved into had sub-standard electrical circuitry and I ripped everything out and replaced it with up-to-date and safe materials at considerable expense). Properties you rent from professional operators you should be able to trust to be up to date, in a country that has a low incidence of corruption. Anything you rent from private individuals should be considered unsafe by default.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > Ditto when I buy a used car How about when you rent a car?
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    Major rental agencies only. I would never rent a car from a private individual. Nor would I borrow a car from a private individual unless I know they keep their stuff up-to-date.
    - jameshart 11y ago
      Airbnb is not a private individual. They are a major rental agency, with a slick looking website. Why is the trust model different?
      - jacquesm 11y ago
        AirBNB are middlemen, they are not - surprise - in the business of renting out apartments, they are in the business of facilitating the renting out of apartments/houses/whatever and that is exactly where the problem lies. People enter properties they rented through AirBNB not from AirBNB with the same expectations that they would have entering a hotel but with a nicer ambiance. And that expectation is terribly faulty.

by vacri 11y ago

jacquesm 11y ago

If I would rent a property through AirBNB (which I won't) I would expect it to be unsafe by default because that to me would seem to be the most prudent way to act. Ditto when I buy a used car, I inspect the thing end-to-end before I trust it, ditto when I buy a new place to live in (the one I just moved into had sub-standard electrical circuitry and I ripped everything out and replaced it with up-to-date and safe materials at considerable expense). Properties you rent from professional operators you should be able to trust to be up to date, in a country that has a low incidence of corruption. Anything you rent from private individuals should be considered unsafe by default.

DanBC 11y ago
> Ditto when I buy a used car How about when you rent a car?
- jacquesm 11y ago
  Major rental agencies only. I would never rent a car from a private individual. Nor would I borrow a car from a private individual unless I know they keep their stuff up-to-date.
  - jameshart 11y ago
    Airbnb is not a private individual. They are a major rental agency, with a slick looking website. Why is the trust model different?
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      AirBNB are middlemen, they are not - surprise - in the business of renting out apartments, they are in the business of facilitating the renting out of apartments/houses/whatever and that is exactly where the problem lies. People enter properties they rented through AirBNB not from AirBNB with the same expectations that they would have entering a hotel but with a nicer ambiance. And that expectation is terribly faulty.