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Why Hackers Must Eject the SJWs

26 points by davidgerard 11y ago

CM30 11y ago
The sad thing is, we knew that this sort of stuff was going on long before it reached the mainstream tech world. The SJW ideaology nearly destroyed atheism with 'new atheism', it led to a huge schism in the gaming community which is still on going and numerous other communities to boot. But nobody did anything. Because the people these types 'infiltrated' first were generally the most unpopular or stigmatised in society. It's easy to overlook their political views when they claim to be 'attacked' by a group that the media loves to demonise. These types are bullies, they are hypocrites and frankly, they are the exact types who are doing more damage to freedom of speech and online civility than their opponents. The tech world needs to drop all contact with them and treat them like the extremists they actually are.
- davidgerard 11y ago
  "We" don't "know" any such thing. The original IRC tale is an immaculate stdh.txt: http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-anti-feminist-rumor.html http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-a...
- moosemilkie 11y ago
  You manage to "revolutionise game journalism" yet?
foldr 11y ago
This is surely overblown. The "SJW" in question looks likely to have been a troll, and it's difficult to believe that Roberto's position in the Django community was seriously threatened by this incident alone. As far as I can work out, it's all part of a much bigger shitshow: http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/07/23/cuban-python-crisis/ http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/07/23/cuban-python-crisi...
- davidgerard 11y ago
  Context: the post before was written in Pick-Up-Artist jargon http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6913 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6913 and the one before that was about the danger of letting women (any women) into your open source project http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 I'm more interested by the notion that RMS would therefore not be a hacker. The Free Software movement is literally about uncompromising social justice.
  - foldr 11y ago
    Yeah, I was taking it for granted that ESR is not to be taken seriously.
peterashford 11y ago
Take some deep breaths. Stay the knee-jerk responses. Allow heads to cool. Suggesting that there's an extraordinary conspiracy against STEM should be backed by at least SOME level of proof and confirmation, yeah? There doesn't appear to be much (any) of that here?
- davidgerard 11y ago
  Of course he has evidence: some guy on IRC told him a stdh.txt! http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 Good analysis of why this is an immaculate stdh.txt: http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-anti-feminist-rumor.html http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-a...

26 points by davidgerard 11y ago

CM30 11y ago

The sad thing is, we knew that this sort of stuff was going on long before it reached the mainstream tech world. The SJW ideaology nearly destroyed atheism with 'new atheism', it led to a huge schism in the gaming community which is still on going and numerous other communities to boot. But nobody did anything. Because the people these types 'infiltrated' first were generally the most unpopular or stigmatised in society. It's easy to overlook their political views when they claim to be 'attacked' by a group that the media loves to demonise. These types are bullies, they are hypocrites and frankly, they are the exact types who are doing more damage to freedom of speech and online civility than their opponents. The tech world needs to drop all contact with them and treat them like the extremists they actually are.

davidgerard 11y ago
"We" don't "know" any such thing. The original IRC tale is an immaculate stdh.txt: http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-anti-feminist-rumor.html http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-a...
moosemilkie 11y ago
You manage to "revolutionise game journalism" yet?

foldr 11y ago

This is surely overblown. The "SJW" in question looks likely to have been a troll, and it's difficult to believe that Roberto's position in the Django community was seriously threatened by this incident alone. As far as I can work out, it's all part of a much bigger shitshow: http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/07/23/cuban-python-crisis/ http://pressfarttocontinue.com/2015/07/23/cuban-python-crisi...

davidgerard 11y ago
Context: the post before was written in Pick-Up-Artist jargon http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6913 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6913 and the one before that was about the danger of letting women (any women) into your open source project http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 I'm more interested by the notion that RMS would therefore not be a hacker. The Free Software movement is literally about uncompromising social justice.
- foldr 11y ago
  Yeah, I was taking it for granted that ESR is not to be taken seriously.

peterashford 11y ago

Take some deep breaths. Stay the knee-jerk responses. Allow heads to cool. Suggesting that there's an extraordinary conspiracy against STEM should be backed by at least SOME level of proof and confirmation, yeah? There doesn't appear to be much (any) of that here?

davidgerard 11y ago
Of course he has evidence: some guy on IRC told him a stdh.txt! http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 Good analysis of why this is an immaculate stdh.txt: http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-anti-feminist-rumor.html http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/this-the-perfect-insane-a...