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That's an appealing and intuitive idea to me too, yeah; but they have validated that it's actually the case on a large population of users. Their paper seems v

by feral 11y ago

That's an appealing and intuitive idea to me too, yeah; but they have validated that it's actually the case on a large population of users. Their paper seems very methodologically careful/thorough. It's also interesting to me that they correlated this with the post-game player-feedback. Its easy to say 'we knew that' post hoc, but they've done the science. (Also, hindsight bias is a real thing.) This seems like the opening step in a line of research. Its like in Feynman's 'cargo cult science' address about the (apocryphal?) experimenter 'Young': this is learning how to carefully do science in this domain. http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm

Natsu 11y ago
While it's good to validate the things we all know, any forum mod could've told you that it's not usually hard to predict the troublemakers or spammers by name.
- feral 11y ago
  There's the things we all know, and there's things we all know because they have been scientifically studied and validated, and these two sets of things are not the same. I'm sure the research in this area will uncover more unintuitive things later!
  - mreiland 11y ago
    I once saw a study that concluded heterosexual couples were more likely to have children than homosexual couples. I mean, there's the things we know, and then there's the things that have been scientifically studied and validated. And then there's the things that really don't need to be validated. I once had someone claim that if you drove a vehicle through mud, it would get muddy. But since it hasn't been scientifically proven and validated, do I really "know" that to be true? Is this really going to be an existential crisis where we don't really know anything until science tells us it's true?
downer70 11y ago
Bah! Cargo cult is a much more nuanced concept. That primitive peoples would blindly imitate in pantomime, the behaviors of an industrialized society, disembodied from the original roots of said behaviors is a deeply shocking outcome. There are so many perverse implications to that, that one almost hates to admit it happened, and still continues to this day. This on the other hand is like profiling someone's personality based on their choice of ringtone, t-shirts or bumper stickers. It's not very interesting to learn that such choices map well with demographics.
- feral 11y ago
  I was not direct referring to the sociological/anthropological concept of a 'cargo cult'. I am instead making reference to Richard Feynman's commencement speech, titled 'Cargo Cult Science' (see link I provided) in which he talks about what is necessary for good science.

by feral 11y ago

Natsu 11y ago

While it's good to validate the things we all know, any forum mod could've told you that it's not usually hard to predict the troublemakers or spammers by name.

feral 11y ago
There's the things we all know, and there's things we all know because they have been scientifically studied and validated, and these two sets of things are not the same. I'm sure the research in this area will uncover more unintuitive things later!
- mreiland 11y ago
  I once saw a study that concluded heterosexual couples were more likely to have children than homosexual couples. I mean, there's the things we know, and then there's the things that have been scientifically studied and validated. And then there's the things that really don't need to be validated. I once had someone claim that if you drove a vehicle through mud, it would get muddy. But since it hasn't been scientifically proven and validated, do I really "know" that to be true? Is this really going to be an existential crisis where we don't really know anything until science tells us it's true?

downer70 11y ago

Bah! Cargo cult is a much more nuanced concept. That primitive peoples would blindly imitate in pantomime, the behaviors of an industrialized society, disembodied from the original roots of said behaviors is a deeply shocking outcome. There are so many perverse implications to that, that one almost hates to admit it happened, and still continues to this day. This on the other hand is like profiling someone's personality based on their choice of ringtone, t-shirts or bumper stickers. It's not very interesting to learn that such choices map well with demographics.

feral 11y ago
I was not direct referring to the sociological/anthropological concept of a 'cargo cult'. I am instead making reference to Richard Feynman's commencement speech, titled 'Cargo Cult Science' (see link I provided) in which he talks about what is necessary for good science.