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Or could it be that they are just completely desperate brainwashed youth rejected by society? Makes more sense.

by fukusa 11y ago

a3voices 11y ago
So they are just Muslim by coincidence?
- fukusa 11y ago
  We're getting close. How many Muslims live in France? How many commit terrorist attacks?
CountSessine 11y ago
Makes more sense. To whom - you? Based on what? Logic? You've made no argument. Based on an untested model of psychology bouncing around in your head?
- fukusa 11y ago
  To anybody with basic reasoning capabilities. There are millions of Muslims in France. You could try to make it look like Islam is the cause of all this, but that would be hard to prove.
  - CountSessine 11y ago
    And that's your argument? Negative correlation based on your own incredulity? The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. The best you have is that they're brainwashed victims, because, well, there's lots of other muslims who don't become terrorists? You have no basic reasoning capabilities yourself. At least the poster you were responding to had a correlation. You have nothing.
    - fukusa 11y ago
      All terrorists are humans. That's a correlation just like all terrorists are Muslims. Maybe you should continue narrowing it down to a more specific cause/group instead of spreading this hatred against Muslims in general.
      - CountSessine 11y ago
        That would require honest research and inquiry, which is impossible now. Multiculturalism, as envisioned by the New Left is a sacred cow and any inquiry into the original claims and models behind it is dealt with harshly. Just witness the flagellation of Robert Putnam among the sociological left.
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. And other terrorists claim other traditions. We could look at all those traditions as unrelated, unconnected causes of terrorism because, hey, that's what each of the terrorists said was important to them -- or we could look for common features that link them to try to understand why people become terrorists.

Or could it be that they are just completely desperate brainwashed youth rejected by society? Makes more sense.

by fukusa 11y ago

Or could it be that they are just completely desperate brainwashed youth rejected by society? Makes more sense.

a3voices 11y ago

So they are just Muslim by coincidence?

fukusa 11y ago
We're getting close. How many Muslims live in France? How many commit terrorist attacks?

CountSessine 11y ago

Makes more sense. To whom - you? Based on what? Logic? You've made no argument. Based on an untested model of psychology bouncing around in your head?

fukusa 11y ago
To anybody with basic reasoning capabilities. There are millions of Muslims in France. You could try to make it look like Islam is the cause of all this, but that would be hard to prove.
- CountSessine 11y ago
  And that's your argument? Negative correlation based on your own incredulity? The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. The best you have is that they're brainwashed victims, because, well, there's lots of other muslims who don't become terrorists? You have no basic reasoning capabilities yourself. At least the poster you were responding to had a correlation. You have nothing.
  - fukusa 11y ago
    All terrorists are humans. That's a correlation just like all terrorists are Muslims. Maybe you should continue narrowing it down to a more specific cause/group instead of spreading this hatred against Muslims in general.
    - CountSessine 11y ago
      That would require honest research and inquiry, which is impossible now. Multiculturalism, as envisioned by the New Left is a sacred cow and any inquiry into the original claims and models behind it is dealt with harshly. Just witness the flagellation of Robert Putnam among the sociological left.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. And other terrorists claim other traditions. We could look at all those traditions as unrelated, unconnected causes of terrorism because, hey, that's what each of the terrorists said was important to them -- or we could look for common features that link them to try to understand why people become terrorists.