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Please, wars of religions are from the 16th century [1]. In 2015, it's probably more linked with the foreign affairs and military operations. [1] https://en.w
by grp 11y ago
Please, wars of religions are from the 16th century [1].
In 2015, it's probably more linked with the foreign affairs and military operations.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion
- a3voices 11y agoIf there were no Muslims, there would be almost no terror attacks. Conversely, if there were more Muslims, there would be more terror attacks.
- fukusa 11y agoOr could it be that they are just completely desperate brainwashed youth rejected by society? Makes more sense.
- a3voices 11y agoSo they are just Muslim by coincidence?
- fukusa 11y agoWe're getting close. How many Muslims live in France? How many commit terrorist attacks?
- CountSessine 11y agoMakes more sense. To whom - you? Based on what? Logic? You've made no argument. Based on an untested model of psychology bouncing around in your head?
- fukusa 11y agoTo anybody with basic reasoning capabilities. There are millions of Muslims in France. You could try to make it look like Islam is the cause of all this, but that would be hard to prove.
- CountSessine 11y agoAnd that's your argument? Negative correlation based on your own incredulity? The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. The best you have is that they're brainwashed victims, because, well, there's lots of other muslims who don't become terrorists? You have no basic reasoning capabilities yourself. At least the poster you were responding to had a correlation. You have nothing.
- fukusa 11y agoAll terrorists are humans. That's a correlation just like all terrorists are Muslims. Maybe you should continue narrowing it down to a more specific cause/group instead of spreading this hatred against Muslims in general.
- CountSessine 11y agoThat would require honest research and inquiry, which is impossible now. Multiculturalism, as envisioned by the New Left is a sacred cow and any inquiry into the original claims and models behind it is dealt with harshly. Just witness the flagellation of Robert Putnam among the sociological left.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> The terrorists themselves claim a religious muslim tradition. And other terrorists claim other traditions. We could look at all those traditions as unrelated, unconnected causes of terrorism because, hey, that's what each of the terrorists said was important to them -- or we could look for common features that link them to try to understand why people become terrorists.
- cataflam 11y agoThere is a very (very) long history of terrorist attacks in France from a wide variety of groups. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorisme_en_France https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorisme_en_France (link to the French one, the English version is shorter) Only looking at post-WWII, you have far-right groups, far-left groups, Corsican regionalists, Basque regionalists, various independentists (Breton, New Caledony, Caribbean, etc.), extension of the Algerian civil war of the 90s, etc. Those account for hundreds of attacks, with a various amount of deads. Only recently have Islamist attacks begun. The most lethal single attack until today in France was in fact from a far-right group in the 60s.
- facepalm 11y agoMaybe, maybe not. In Nothern Ireland Christians have been killing each other for a while. Maybe religion is just a superficial reason.
- dllthomas 11y agoPlenty of attacks by Hindus in Sri Lanka, too. Religion - any particular one, or at all - is neither necessary nor sufficient for brutal violence or its prevention.
- dang 11y agoAs we've told you before, you can't conduct religious flamewars on Hacker News. We've banned this account for violating the HN guidelines after many requests to stop.
- CountSessine 11y agoMany of the cultures inundating Europe now are from the 16th century and earlier. Maybe if you stumble onto some of these terrorists in Paris now, you can inform them that their cause is just oh-so démodé? You can let us know how that works out.
- scrollaway 11y agoThis is an incredibly thoughtless and heartless thing to say. It doesn't even make sense. Usually, I'd argue your point but.. today, I don't want to, my country was attacked and I feel horrible already. This is neither the time nor the place. It doesn't matter where they're from, I hope each and every one of those fuckers get caught, and I truly hope this is the last comment like this I'll see today. Unfortunately I know it won't be. Keep this xenophobia to yourself.
- grp 11y agoI don't think they need to be informed. Crystallizing on the fact that every terrorists are muslims is like saying that most serial killers are on average 1m75 and each pedophile have one left foot and one right foot.