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What can we in tech do to help with this kind of situation?
by rdl 11y ago
What can we in tech do to help with this kind of situation?
- flyinglizard 11y agoThe tech useful for preventing these situations is exactly the kind that's frowned upon in civil liberties circles.
- AnimalMuppet 11y agoTech useful for surviving it might be more our thing, though...
- ryandrake 11y agoTech that enables education, work training, and cultural assimilation for disenfranchised minority youths is frowned upon in civil liberties circles?
- flyinglizard 11y agoYou demonstrate the colonialist mindset that doesn't understand other cultures seek other ideals than your own. Were the 9/11 hijackers "disenfranchised minority youths"?
- serge2k 11y agoDoesn't France have social systems to enable the first 2, and the 3rd is up to the person. These people aren't victims. They made a choice.
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- fukusa 11y agoSo why didn't the NSA report this suspicious activity to the French authorities?
- flyinglizard 11y agoWho said they haven't and who said such acts weren't foiled by intelligence agencies before?
- fukusa 11y agoWell if they have reported it, why did it still happen? You are asking me to prove that the NSA hasn't foiled any attacks instead of asking the agency conducting mass surveillance to provide evidence? Just to give you an idea most terrorist attacks on US soil, foiled or not, have been directed by the FBI. Source is The Intercept.
- leppr 11y agoThere's also a comparatively low-tech piece of engineering we law abiding Europeans don't have access to that may help individual citizens in cases like these.
- openfuture 11y agosurveillance is not a solution to the problem it merely suppresses it. Treating symptoms is never as useful as treating the underlying cause.
- flyinglizard 11y agoWe're lacking the tools to deal with this problem. All we can do is try and contain it.
- openfuture 11y agoThe containment is driving the feedback loop thereby keeping us from improving the situation. We need to take a leap of faith in order to break it. Like others have said the damage this is causing is mostly mental. The number of random (I mean that as in could happen to anyone not downplaying the significance of human life) deaths caused by terrorism is not so large. However this does not mean we should tolerate people who refuse to play by the rules of society because of their personal beliefs (whatever they may be). Any countermeasures must be above board and transparently fair.
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- muzmath 11y agoDestabilizing countries with mass murder turns citizens into terrorist sympathizers.
- colund 11y agoI think terrorism is a far greater contributor to destabilizing countries than anti-terrorism attacks.
- yourepowerless 11y agoSyria? Iraq? Are you the Platonic cave dweller?
- jacquesm 11y agoThis is not a technology problem.
- rdl 11y agoIt's not primarily a technology problem, but I think there are technological solutions which will help mitigate the harm to innocents. (There's also a whole suite of technology problems here solved via JDAMs and Hellfires, which seem to be actively being pursued.)
- jacquesm 11y agoThe primary cause of these incidents seems to be radicalization of segments of society with 'nothing to lose'. The societal problems involved in the creation of such segments and what can be done about them is a large and complex issue in which some technology will for sure be useful but which is first and foremost a people problem. The seeds for these issues were sown many years ago (and in quite a few cases with those JDAMs and Hellfires which now magically are suddenly part of the solution) and will take decades to repair in a way that these incidents will no longer happen. France is (like several other EU countries) shaping up to become a laboratory about how, if and when these problems are going to be solved. I see no major role for technology here, not in mitigating the harm to innocents and not in the eventual solution. In fact, technology - by virtue of eliminating a large number of blue collar jobs, which gave people something to be proud of and something to lose - is also part of the problem.
- arcticfox 11y agoTechnology is a strong force multiplier for whatever potential "solutions" are, whether a person believes them to be increased surveillance, more open political processes, more cultural mingling etc. Simply discounting the power of technology is short-sighted.
- jacquesm 11y agoApplying a screwdriver to a nail is the wrong tool for the problem, even tough that tool has excellent properties in many other contexts. Technology is not some kind of magic wand that you can point at every problem and make it smaller or disappear, in fact, for some problems technology is so wrong that it makes the problems worse rather than better. I'm not sold on technology having a positive role to play here but I'm open to specific suggestions (just like Ryan originally asked for) and if there are any that might work I will definitely support those, in spite of my skepticism about such solutions in general in the current context based on what technology has been able to achieve on this front to date.
- a3voices 11y agoUber for hostage rescue?
- nmc 11y agoThere are initiatives like location-aware alerts on your smartphone, dedicated channels for emergency broadcasts... Reminds me of this thing they have in Amsterdam: http://www.iamexpat.nl/read-and-discuss/expat-page/news/netherlands-gets-world-first-nationwide-sms-emergency-alert-system http://www.iamexpat.nl/read-and-discuss/expat-page/news/neth...
- uhtred 11y agoTwitter could destroy any accounts that belong to or sympathise with organisations like ISIS. Why do they allow those cretins to have a voice?
- wavefunction 11y agoPresumably because it's easier to track the contacts made between these sorts of organizations and those who sympathize with them.
- leppr 11y agoThis is exactly the kind of reaction that makes terrorists attacks dangerous to society. Obviously ISIS is past the point of laissez-faire tolerance but that isn't the point, ideological censorship should always be a last resort.
- serge2k 11y agoSilencing enemy propaganda and recruiting is a bit different than silencing an opposing entity.
- yarper 11y agoI think we should all be asking ourselves this question.
- colund 11y agoUnfortunately tech has made it easier for terrorism to recruit more terrorists, spread hateful messages and send secure encrypted messages across the world to plan attacks like this. I am so saddened by this situation with a powerful IS which wants to remove our freedom and change the world into an extreme muslim one. We must remember not to spread hate towards all the peaceful muslims.
- openfuture 11y agoGrowing pains, people were angry before tech. Now that the world is connected we have to deal with these problems. One thing is for sure, marginalizing and discriminating even more is not a solution.
- SHIT_TALKER 11y agoBreed.
- jmarbach 11y agoYou could find ways to automatically find and disable Twitter accounts used by terrorists, such as this effort: https://twitter.com/ctrlsec https://twitter.com/ctrlsec