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The tech talent shortage is a lie when you don't know what tech talent actually looks like. It also doesn't exist nearly as strong as it does in SV. Remote is a

by mbesto 11y ago

The tech talent shortage is a lie when you don't know what tech talent actually looks like. It also doesn't exist nearly as strong as it does in SV. Remote is a solution, but not everyone knows how to run a company with remote employees. > And therein lies the problem: The real shortage isn’t of talented people; it’s of employers (and, by implication, society) who are willing or able to nurture talented people. When everyone has a runway of 18 months, spending the time and money to nurture talented people isn't feasible whatsoever. You need productive people on day 1. > Despite the tech industry’s propensity to hire people of privilege, research shows that people with different backgrounds are no less capable or successful as software engineers than those from privileged circles. And there are strong bottom-line arguments for a more diverse workplace. Yet, the author's company is full of white males in their 20's and 30's...[0] It sounds like the author wants other people, with other capital to invest in the hard part of what he's suggesting to be solved. For the record, Google brings in 1,500 interns per year. That's a pretty significant investment in talented people who many not necessarily be productive...(hint: they take a lot of Stanford CS undergrads) of which many will eventually take full time jobs there when they graduate. I've tried to hire these people and they are extremely difficult to attract when the alternative is a cushy job at Google. [0] - https://www.vividcortex.com/about-us/#leadership https://www.vividcortex.com/about-us/#leadership

theklub 11y ago
Do you know how long it takes to outsource workers? You might as well just train new one's in house. Most of the time these companies just want cheaper employees.
vonmoltke 11y ago
> When everyone has a runway of 18 months, spending the time and money to nurture talented people isn't feasible whatsoever. You need productive people on day 1. Day productivity is a mirage. Nobody is productive on day 1 unless they were already somehow working with your organization and understand your processes[1], team dynamics, and whatnot. > Yet, the author's company is full of white males in their 20's and 30's... You must be seeing something on that page I am not. In fact, it looks more diverse to me than the typical Valley start-up. > It sounds like the author wants other people, with other capital to invest in the hard part of what he's suggesting to be solved. That is a huge leap to make from a few pictures on an about page. > For the record, Google brings in 1,500 interns per year. That's a pretty significant investment in talented people who many not necessarily be productive...(hint: they take a lot of Stanford CS undergrads) of which many will eventually take full time jobs there when they graduate. I've tried to hire these people and they are extremely difficult to attract when the alternative is a cushy job at Google. So, there's a shortage of Stanford CS grads who interned at Google. What about the hundreds of thousands of grads who didn't go to Stanford or intern at Google? How many of them have you interviewed? [1] Of course, it is my firm belief that much of the angst in Valley hiring is that companies don't want to actually pay attention to things like process and organization and so try to hire a bunch of self-organizing rockstars to compensate.
- mbesto 11y ago
  > Nobody is productive on day 1 "Day 1" doesn't literally mean the first hour of employment. I guess you didn't pick up the subtle exaggeration. > You must be seeing something on that page I am not. There are exactly 11 images of people on that page. 9 of which are light skinned, male, and dressed almost identical to what you would see in a typical SV tech startup. There is exactly 1, yes 1, woman. > How many of them have you interviewed? Lots, in fact, most of them are not Stanford grads. Care to elaborate why that's relevant?

by mbesto 11y ago

theklub 11y ago

Do you know how long it takes to outsource workers? You might as well just train new one's in house. Most of the time these companies just want cheaper employees.

vonmoltke 11y ago

> When everyone has a runway of 18 months, spending the time and money to nurture talented people isn't feasible whatsoever. You need productive people on day 1. Day productivity is a mirage. Nobody is productive on day 1 unless they were already somehow working with your organization and understand your processes[1], team dynamics, and whatnot. > Yet, the author's company is full of white males in their 20's and 30's... You must be seeing something on that page I am not. In fact, it looks more diverse to me than the typical Valley start-up. > It sounds like the author wants other people, with other capital to invest in the hard part of what he's suggesting to be solved. That is a huge leap to make from a few pictures on an about page. > For the record, Google brings in 1,500 interns per year. That's a pretty significant investment in talented people who many not necessarily be productive...(hint: they take a lot of Stanford CS undergrads) of which many will eventually take full time jobs there when they graduate. I've tried to hire these people and they are extremely difficult to attract when the alternative is a cushy job at Google. So, there's a shortage of Stanford CS grads who interned at Google. What about the hundreds of thousands of grads who didn't go to Stanford or intern at Google? How many of them have you interviewed? [1] Of course, it is my firm belief that much of the angst in Valley hiring is that companies don't want to actually pay attention to things like process and organization and so try to hire a bunch of self-organizing rockstars to compensate.

mbesto 11y ago
> Nobody is productive on day 1 "Day 1" doesn't literally mean the first hour of employment. I guess you didn't pick up the subtle exaggeration. > You must be seeing something on that page I am not. There are exactly 11 images of people on that page. 9 of which are light skinned, male, and dressed almost identical to what you would see in a typical SV tech startup. There is exactly 1, yes 1, woman. > How many of them have you interviewed? Lots, in fact, most of them are not Stanford grads. Care to elaborate why that's relevant?