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Oh, by "shoebox" I meant a house where the servants' quarters aren't even in a separate wing. I guess our definitions are a bit different.

dogma1138 11y ago
>Oh, by "shoebox" I meant a house where the servants' quarters aren't even in a separate wing. I guess our definitions are a bit different. Is there a reason for the patronising comment? I was actually being honest and asking what would you refer to as a "shoebox" in sq/m or sq/f because as I said often when I had discussed flat sizes with friends that live in the US they didn't realize that a spacious 2 bed flat in London is the same size as a spacious studio or 1 bed in NYC. So if you are willing to be serious for a second what is the floor space in your little apartment that you love so much?
- kevinskii 11y ago
  Sorry, that wasn't intended to come across as patronizing. My house is just over 1400sq/f, which is on the smaller side by American standards. I think a lot depends on whether you have a family. As a bachelor I lived comfortably with a roommate for years in a 600 sq/f apartment, but I wouldn't want to do that with kids and a dog. In short, I don't think we're really in disagreement.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Yeah 1400 sq/f is almost double the average household size in the UK unfortunately... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535136/Average-British-family-home-size-shrinks-two-square-metres-decade-increasing-numbers-forced-live-flats.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535136/Average-Brit... It's quite a shock especially for Americans who move to the UK many to London then going to see flats just to get a reality slap when a 2 bed flat is the size of their old garage in the burbs.. And I personally don't know if I should laugh or cry every time some one links me a "tiny house" video which turns out to be larger than my flat (and the flats of most people I know that don't live in a detached house) which costs about 3800$ a month in rent...

dogma1138 11y ago

>Oh, by "shoebox" I meant a house where the servants' quarters aren't even in a separate wing. I guess our definitions are a bit different. Is there a reason for the patronising comment? I was actually being honest and asking what would you refer to as a "shoebox" in sq/m or sq/f because as I said often when I had discussed flat sizes with friends that live in the US they didn't realize that a spacious 2 bed flat in London is the same size as a spacious studio or 1 bed in NYC. So if you are willing to be serious for a second what is the floor space in your little apartment that you love so much?

kevinskii 11y ago
Sorry, that wasn't intended to come across as patronizing. My house is just over 1400sq/f, which is on the smaller side by American standards. I think a lot depends on whether you have a family. As a bachelor I lived comfortably with a roommate for years in a 600 sq/f apartment, but I wouldn't want to do that with kids and a dog. In short, I don't think we're really in disagreement.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Yeah 1400 sq/f is almost double the average household size in the UK unfortunately... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535136/Average-British-family-home-size-shrinks-two-square-metres-decade-increasing-numbers-forced-live-flats.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535136/Average-Brit... It's quite a shock especially for Americans who move to the UK many to London then going to see flats just to get a reality slap when a 2 bed flat is the size of their old garage in the burbs.. And I personally don't know if I should laugh or cry every time some one links me a "tiny house" video which turns out to be larger than my flat (and the flats of most people I know that don't live in a detached house) which costs about 3800$ a month in rent...