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That clearly takes too long to say. DevOps covers more than just "infrastructure as code", though.

• PaulHoule 11y ago
  I would say it is a viewpoint I attained from doing web projects for various "startups" and "internal startups" starting in 1999 or so. In these cases you have very small teams so you can't afford to have separate DBA, Sysadmin, Network Operations, and Development people -- at least not entirely. When you've had experience doing everything yourself I think that makes you a better team member. For instance I write very solid server code because I hate being woken up at 3AM.
  • davelnewton 11y ago
    Sure, knowing all the things makes you a better team member. But all this is orthogonal to what was being discussed. DevOps is a thing, and the skillset(s) are not necessarily the same. Similarly anecdotal; I'm a pretty decent dev. I'm not a decent ops person for a variety of reasons, the biggest being a complete lack of interest. Would knowing more about ops make me a better team member? Maybe marginally, but we have devops people that don't have to concern themselves with application code, and apps people that don't have to concern themselves with (almost any) of deploy/ops details. That makes us more efficient, because we don't have to know all the things, and can actually have time to focus.
    • dozzie 11y ago
      Oh, so you have devops people and dev people. How strange, given what's typically behind devops buzzword.