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Why would they? Would people in general be "earning" more money from basic income than current benefits? I mean you can't increase rent past the point people ar

Why would they? Would people in general be "earning" more money from basic income than current benefits? I mean you can't increase rent past the point people are able to pay.

switch007 11y ago
> I mean you can't increase rent past the point people are able to pay. You can increase them past the point that people on lower wages/basic income can pay, driving them out of desirable or semi desirable areas to cheaper areas. See London as an example.
- lagadu 11y ago
  Yeah but that already happens with the current system; the worst case scenario is that nothing changes and people on lower wages keep being pushed out from more desirable areas.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  But I don't see why you need to live in London? You might like it and want to live there, but then you need the money to be able to. Like I could move to Helsinki if I wanted to on my current salary, but I see no reason to do so. I live in smaller city (or maybe it's even considered a town) and I have plenty of extra money left over after my rent.
  - switch007 11y ago
    I don't need to nor, personally, want to. However, the people already there have a right to be there, especially those born in London, who grew up there, who have families, jobs, community involvement etc.
kwhitefoot 11y ago
It would probably drive some up and some down. People who have very little money have no bargaining power so they must pay what the landlord demands even for substandard accommodation. Such accommodation would probably go down in price if a basic income were instituted at a reasonable level (high enough for a reasonable life rather than just enough to avoid starvation) because people would be able to afford something a little better. This of course would drive the price of the bottom end of the good accommodation up. But the equilibrium would probably be at a point that was more comfortable for the tenants and landlords would have to work harder to attract them.

Why would they? Would people in general be "earning" more money from basic income than current benefits? I mean you can't increase rent past the point people are able to pay.

switch007 11y ago

> I mean you can't increase rent past the point people are able to pay. You can increase them past the point that people on lower wages/basic income can pay, driving them out of desirable or semi desirable areas to cheaper areas. See London as an example.

lagadu 11y ago
Yeah but that already happens with the current system; the worst case scenario is that nothing changes and people on lower wages keep being pushed out from more desirable areas.
746F7475 11y ago
But I don't see why you need to live in London? You might like it and want to live there, but then you need the money to be able to. Like I could move to Helsinki if I wanted to on my current salary, but I see no reason to do so. I live in smaller city (or maybe it's even considered a town) and I have plenty of extra money left over after my rent.
- switch007 11y ago
  I don't need to nor, personally, want to. However, the people already there have a right to be there, especially those born in London, who grew up there, who have families, jobs, community involvement etc.

kwhitefoot 11y ago

It would probably drive some up and some down. People who have very little money have no bargaining power so they must pay what the landlord demands even for substandard accommodation. Such accommodation would probably go down in price if a basic income were instituted at a reasonable level (high enough for a reasonable life rather than just enough to avoid starvation) because people would be able to afford something a little better. This of course would drive the price of the bottom end of the good accommodation up. But the equilibrium would probably be at a point that was more comfortable for the tenants and landlords would have to work harder to attract them.