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>Also, this is Finland a small, rich and homogenous country. There are an unknown amount of reasons that would determine the success of a program like basic in

• foota 11y ago
  Probably because they're the most obvious of the factors that could impact such a program.
  • lagadu 11y ago
    I'm sorry, why is that obvious, even in the slightest?
  • Hytosys 11y ago
    Oh, shit! How come I always miss the obvious things? What am I doing wrong?
    • paulojreis 11y ago
      I don't know why you're being downvoted. You're questioning economical premises stated as obvious in a tech forum (so, where no special economical knowledge should be assumed). You're doing the right thing - why are they obvious? If he who stated them as obvious can't answer that with solid references, then it's not obvious; it's just an unfounded preconception.
      • philh 11y ago
        > I don't know why you're being downvoted. Didn't downvote, but personally, I really dislike sarcasm used in this manner. It's not so much questioning as flat-out contradicting. And it does that in a way which doesn't help to bridge the inferential gap.
• michaelbuddy 11y ago
  because if you bring in an influx of color and foreign diversity, you get people who have less in common, less shared values and don't look out for each other. Get a massive influx of brown muslims in your white country, then find out that you no longer cooperate with each other like you did before. It's basically the way in the U.S. that the two party system also uses race and immigration to drive another wedge between citizens. Believe me, you want homogenity. It's better for progress than diversity. Everyone tells the story that diversity somehow is strength. Nope, never has been, it's a story that just feels good but isn't true. The U.S. progresses in spite of diversity and conflict, not because of it.
  • puredemo 11y ago
    At least the whole world is gradually becoming democratic and capitalistic. That's one form of homogeneity, at least in expectations if not ethnicity.
    • Hytosys 11y ago
      I don't think I understand what you meant by "expectations," and I don't know if you meant this comment to be anything but an ideological thought, but this is what I know: Capitalism runs off of inequality of all sorts. Capitalism's entire history is filled with instances of the ruling class systematically serving up xenophobic and racially divisive propaganda (in order to justify expanding imperially, in order to justify inexpensive labor, etc.), with no sign of slowing down. As such, I can find no evidence that cultural tranquility is possible under the global capitalism. The inequality that capitalism continues to deliver breeds dangerous ideological heterogeneity between the people of the working class.
      • puredemo 11y ago
        It's my belief that equality shouldn't be the goal of capitalism, rather a fair representation of talent and productivity. Someone hard-working with a 130 IQ versus someone depressed or maladjusted with a 90 IQ are, in fact, in entirely different classes. It isn't "dangerous" to admit that, it's simply reality. Capitalism does a decent job handling those extremes.