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YouTube Music

57 points by lelf 11y ago

hypr 11y ago
Honestly, I am liking this more than other music streaming services . I like a small band called annenmaykantereit from Germany . I cant find their stuff anywhere(Apple,Spotify...) other than YouTube.
- christop 11y ago
  Their latest LP was added to Spotify a month ago, FWIW.
  - hypr 11y ago
    Sadly, I uninstalled Spotify days ago. I cant pay for their service from where I live, but I can pay for Google . Thanks anyway.
Mithaldu 11y ago
> This app is incompatible with all of your devices. I have 4 different android devices, which all fully meet youtube's version requirements. This is baffling. I guess it doesn't like that i'm in germany? Edit: Yep, after installing the APK, the app complains my account is not american. So it's just a very lazy way of region-locking with misleading error messages.
- nolok 11y ago
  "Incompatible with device X" means "Cannot be installed on (your) device X" (be it for region restriction, lack of phone capabilities, or anything else ...), not that it cannot technically work. Might not be super clear but the entire store works like that and always has, so it's nothing to do with youtube music.
  - StavrosK 11y ago
    It's not incompatible with the device, it's incompatible with the region. If it were incompatible with the device itself, you would expect it to continue being incompatible when that device was in a different country.
    - TillE 11y ago
      Technically, I believe that means it's "incompatible" with your SIM card, from which your region is derived. As an expat, I vastly prefer Apple's approach to all this: if you have a method of payment in one country, you have a completely valid account for that country.
- Strom 11y ago
  It's US only.
- buro9 11y ago
  I'm in the UK at the moment, but have a US region Play Account via a Gmail account (a trick I learned to be able to install OpenTable for US reservations when it kept offering me UK restaurants). The key is to use a VPN to surface from a US IP address, they are limiting install to GeoIP. After you have installed it, you can open the app and choose a different Google Account (a non-US one) to use with the app. But it will always do a GeoIP check on opening the app, so you have to keep using the VPN. This allows you to access your existing Google Music and YouTube accounts even though you just installed under a different account. As for the app, works really well. I like the audio vs video toggle at the top, and that it's picked up on the things I've listened to or watched within Google Music. The auto-advance onto the next video feels more intuitive than the Google Music "Start Radio..." button, and the recommendations are good. It's also really really nice to have the music play in the background, screen off... and then to make it foreground and at that point it resumes the video, sync'd perfectly. They do seem to be playing optimised audio tracks from videos, not audio tracks. This is just a better interface for music than Google Play Music which feels too cold and sanitised for something so emotive as music. This stands back a bit, let's the music and video step to the front. The only catch. I can't pay for it using my UK account. So it looks like I have a couple of weeks to choose whether I want to shift my Google Play Music subscription over to my US Play Account or not. Right now... I'm thinking not, and to wait. But who knows how long the wait will be. For the curious about bandwidth requirements for HD video over VPN: https://goo.gl/photos/BG7JeTxe8UNbWMGL9 https://goo.gl/photos/BG7JeTxe8UNbWMGL9
  - ju-st 11y ago
    All I want is a Youtube app that does this: > It's also really really nice to have the music play in the background Apparently this works on the IPhone but not on Android...
    - binarycrusader 11y ago
      No, it works on Android too but only for songs that are marked as allowing it. I know because I have used it on my Moto X 2014.
    - 11y ago
MDCore 11y ago
This seems to be an advertorial. Even when it talks about what's missing it shrugs it off like an unrealistic demand: > The one feature I really find lacking in Music is the ability to make playlists, but I know that when it comes to music services I’m hungry for power features that don’t necessarily appeal to the masses This article is an ad, not a review or analysis of the service.
- on_and_off 11y ago
  isn't that true for 90% of the content of this website ?
- icebraining 11y ago
  The opposite take: "YouTube Music is Breathtakingly Pointless" http://gizmodo.com/youtube-music-is-breathtakingly-pointless-1742244361 http://gizmodo.com/youtube-music-is-breathtakingly-pointless...
  - giancarlostoro 11y ago
    It really seems pointless when I've been using Google All Music Access for over a year and have access to all the music I know and love, all cached on my phone for offline use.
- sanjeetsuhag 11y ago
  Its The Verge. What did you expect ?
- rangibaby 11y ago
  Great point; I remember being really bummed out by the Youtube app for iOS in ~2009 not having playlists. It's not exactly a power feature.
- morgante 11y ago
  Advertisements are paid for. This wasn't. Saying that it was is a pretty major accusation and, if true, would be a gigantic breach of journalistic ethics. There's a huge difference between a positive review and an advertisement. Conflating the two is intellectually lazy.
odiroot 11y ago
How can Pandora be so popular if it's an US-only (+maybe two more) service?
- buro9 11y ago
  Built into many car stereos and older devices.
- rmccue 11y ago
  I strongly suspect the quoted statistics are for the US only. Hulu is similarly not available in a lot of non-US regions.
efangs 11y ago
This ad lost me at "Dave Matthews Band".
jasonmirk 11y ago
As a former Dj I can say that youtube is an invaluable tool to find rare out of print vinyls. Spotify and the like only have popular music. Apart from youtube the only other option is to download illegal mp3s.
razster 11y ago
Luckily this ad has no affect on me. I'll just make my play list using Youtube and the free music people upload on the site ;)
hellbanner 11y ago
https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl

57 points by lelf 11y ago

hypr 11y ago

Honestly, I am liking this more than other music streaming services . I like a small band called annenmaykantereit from Germany . I cant find their stuff anywhere(Apple,Spotify...) other than YouTube.

christop 11y ago
Their latest LP was added to Spotify a month ago, FWIW.
- hypr 11y ago
  Sadly, I uninstalled Spotify days ago. I cant pay for their service from where I live, but I can pay for Google . Thanks anyway.

Mithaldu 11y ago

> This app is incompatible with all of your devices. I have 4 different android devices, which all fully meet youtube's version requirements. This is baffling. I guess it doesn't like that i'm in germany? Edit: Yep, after installing the APK, the app complains my account is not american. So it's just a very lazy way of region-locking with misleading error messages.

nolok 11y ago
"Incompatible with device X" means "Cannot be installed on (your) device X" (be it for region restriction, lack of phone capabilities, or anything else ...), not that it cannot technically work. Might not be super clear but the entire store works like that and always has, so it's nothing to do with youtube music.
- StavrosK 11y ago
  It's not incompatible with the device, it's incompatible with the region. If it were incompatible with the device itself, you would expect it to continue being incompatible when that device was in a different country.
  - TillE 11y ago
    Technically, I believe that means it's "incompatible" with your SIM card, from which your region is derived. As an expat, I vastly prefer Apple's approach to all this: if you have a method of payment in one country, you have a completely valid account for that country.
Strom 11y ago
It's US only.
buro9 11y ago
I'm in the UK at the moment, but have a US region Play Account via a Gmail account (a trick I learned to be able to install OpenTable for US reservations when it kept offering me UK restaurants). The key is to use a VPN to surface from a US IP address, they are limiting install to GeoIP. After you have installed it, you can open the app and choose a different Google Account (a non-US one) to use with the app. But it will always do a GeoIP check on opening the app, so you have to keep using the VPN. This allows you to access your existing Google Music and YouTube accounts even though you just installed under a different account. As for the app, works really well. I like the audio vs video toggle at the top, and that it's picked up on the things I've listened to or watched within Google Music. The auto-advance onto the next video feels more intuitive than the Google Music "Start Radio..." button, and the recommendations are good. It's also really really nice to have the music play in the background, screen off... and then to make it foreground and at that point it resumes the video, sync'd perfectly. They do seem to be playing optimised audio tracks from videos, not audio tracks. This is just a better interface for music than Google Play Music which feels too cold and sanitised for something so emotive as music. This stands back a bit, let's the music and video step to the front. The only catch. I can't pay for it using my UK account. So it looks like I have a couple of weeks to choose whether I want to shift my Google Play Music subscription over to my US Play Account or not. Right now... I'm thinking not, and to wait. But who knows how long the wait will be. For the curious about bandwidth requirements for HD video over VPN: https://goo.gl/photos/BG7JeTxe8UNbWMGL9 https://goo.gl/photos/BG7JeTxe8UNbWMGL9
- ju-st 11y ago
  All I want is a Youtube app that does this: > It's also really really nice to have the music play in the background Apparently this works on the IPhone but not on Android...
  - binarycrusader 11y ago
    No, it works on Android too but only for songs that are marked as allowing it. I know because I have used it on my Moto X 2014.
  - 11y ago

MDCore 11y ago

This seems to be an advertorial. Even when it talks about what's missing it shrugs it off like an unrealistic demand: > The one feature I really find lacking in Music is the ability to make playlists, but I know that when it comes to music services I’m hungry for power features that don’t necessarily appeal to the masses This article is an ad, not a review or analysis of the service.

on_and_off 11y ago
isn't that true for 90% of the content of this website ?
icebraining 11y ago
The opposite take: "YouTube Music is Breathtakingly Pointless" http://gizmodo.com/youtube-music-is-breathtakingly-pointless-1742244361 http://gizmodo.com/youtube-music-is-breathtakingly-pointless...
- giancarlostoro 11y ago
  It really seems pointless when I've been using Google All Music Access for over a year and have access to all the music I know and love, all cached on my phone for offline use.
sanjeetsuhag 11y ago
Its The Verge. What did you expect ?
rangibaby 11y ago
Great point; I remember being really bummed out by the Youtube app for iOS in ~2009 not having playlists. It's not exactly a power feature.
morgante 11y ago
Advertisements are paid for. This wasn't. Saying that it was is a pretty major accusation and, if true, would be a gigantic breach of journalistic ethics. There's a huge difference between a positive review and an advertisement. Conflating the two is intellectually lazy.

odiroot 11y ago

How can Pandora be so popular if it's an US-only (+maybe two more) service?

buro9 11y ago
Built into many car stereos and older devices.
rmccue 11y ago
I strongly suspect the quoted statistics are for the US only. Hulu is similarly not available in a lot of non-US regions.

efangs 11y ago

This ad lost me at "Dave Matthews Band".

jasonmirk 11y ago

As a former Dj I can say that youtube is an invaluable tool to find rare out of print vinyls. Spotify and the like only have popular music. Apart from youtube the only other option is to download illegal mp3s.

razster 11y ago

Luckily this ad has no affect on me. I'll just make my play list using Youtube and the free music people upload on the site ;)

hellbanner 11y ago

https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl