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I think you have it backwards. If all jobs got roughly the same remuneration, most people would take the easy fun job, as much as they claim otherwise. People

by hodwik 11y ago

I think you have it backwards. If all jobs got roughly the same remuneration, most people would take the easy fun job, as much as they claim otherwise. People don't leave their jobs as parking lot attendants because they're not challenged. They leave because they want to buy a new TV, a car, and some fly threads. If I could make as much reading all day in a little box, occasionally handing people their change, as I do in tech, I'm going to that parking lot. It's not the blue-collar jobs you'd have trouble filling. It's the lawyers, doctors, accountants, and so forth. Outside of the hobby careers (like tech, architect, etc.), most white-collar jobs suck terribly.

JamesBarney 11y ago
We have a glut of lawyers already. Many people who have a law degree currently don't practices because there are more people who want to be lawyers then positions. Doctors we won't have a problem with because supply of doctors could drop significantly and medical schools would still be full. Most accountants I know like accounting, and would not quite their job in order to make 10k to sit on their butt. I also think your view of being a minimum wage worker is very idealized one. Having worked many minimum wage jobs in college I can tell you I would require a significant raise to work any of them again. Being constantly screamed and cursed at by middle managers, standing for 8 hours straight without a break, not knowing what your schedule looks like in a week, working until midnight, occasionally working 12 hour shifts. No thank you. I would much rather write software, do accounting, or be a doctor. People don't work shitty jobs because it's easy they work shitty jobs because they didn't hired for a better one.
dibujante 11y ago
I think we're approaching the same point from different angles. I just described one of the most enjoyable white-collar jobs, and you contrasted it with less-enjoyable ones. And you brought up one of the most enjoyable blue-collar jobs to contrast my unpleasant blue-collar one. I think the point we're both reaching at is that compensation would correlate more strongly to enjoyability of the job that in currently does. Unpleasant jobs, white- or blue-collar, would need to be compensated more in order to retain staff, or be made less unpleasant.

by hodwik 11y ago

JamesBarney 11y ago

We have a glut of lawyers already. Many people who have a law degree currently don't practices because there are more people who want to be lawyers then positions. Doctors we won't have a problem with because supply of doctors could drop significantly and medical schools would still be full. Most accountants I know like accounting, and would not quite their job in order to make 10k to sit on their butt. I also think your view of being a minimum wage worker is very idealized one. Having worked many minimum wage jobs in college I can tell you I would require a significant raise to work any of them again. Being constantly screamed and cursed at by middle managers, standing for 8 hours straight without a break, not knowing what your schedule looks like in a week, working until midnight, occasionally working 12 hour shifts. No thank you. I would much rather write software, do accounting, or be a doctor. People don't work shitty jobs because it's easy they work shitty jobs because they didn't hired for a better one.

dibujante 11y ago

I think we're approaching the same point from different angles. I just described one of the most enjoyable white-collar jobs, and you contrasted it with less-enjoyable ones. And you brought up one of the most enjoyable blue-collar jobs to contrast my unpleasant blue-collar one. I think the point we're both reaching at is that compensation would correlate more strongly to enjoyability of the job that in currently does. Unpleasant jobs, white- or blue-collar, would need to be compensated more in order to retain staff, or be made less unpleasant.