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Yep, I'll take a 3/4 acre lot and an attached 2-car garage in a low-crime area over city living any day of the week. And I know there are a lot of people who ar

Yep, I'll take a 3/4 acre lot and an attached 2-car garage in a low-crime area over city living any day of the week. And I know there are a lot of people who are really bothered by the fact that there are a lot of people like me. It's fun to watch city dwellers brood and obsess over the existence of suburbs.

JoeAltmaier 11y ago
I'll take my 80 acres of creek and wood, two outbuildings and no neighbors at all. Remote working is wonderful.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  Living the dream!
grapes4me 11y ago
I pay $100/mo (tax free) for unlimited public transit, which allows easy access to the airport. Most cars cost something like 8-9k just to own per year. You also make higher salaries in the city, and if you have a % 401k match, which doesn't cost you anything, well, that is money in the bank regardless if your expenses are higher. Not to mention, my commute is 30 minutes or less. One of my jobs my commute was 15 minutes via public transit. Have fun driving everywhere in the burbs and polluting the earth with tons of green house gasses.
- rhapsodic 11y ago
  Actually, I work remotely. I don't commute at all. The tone of your reply is what I was referring to. You sound angry and bitter because of the personal preferences I expressed. You obviously prefer public transit to driving your own car. I don't happen to share your view, but I'm not going to judge you or berate you because of it.
  - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
    Agreed; its just sour grapes. I work remotely, and burn far less fuel out here in my earth-sheltered house in the country than some condo in the city. The car is the least of it - heating, cooking, utilities can dwarf the driving cost.
  - grapes4me 11y ago
    Its not just commuting to work, its everything that comes with living close to things. Socializing is easier, there is more to do, more variety of restaurants and small businesses, better access to services (medical, government, library, etc), and world class entertainment. I'm within walking distance to most things I need even. I just don't understand why people would want to live in the suburbs over living in the country or the city. To me, the burbs are isolating and depressing; they are cultural waste lands. I don't have to to drive everywhere, or maintain a car and thus I am saving another few thousand dollars every year, its fiscally a no brainer to live in the city. if you are going to be a hermit, better off doing it in the country.
    - rhapsodic 11y ago
      > I just don't understand why people would want to live in the suburbs over living in the country or the city. To me, the burbs are isolating and depressing; they are cultural waste lands. I don't have to to drive everywhere, or maintain a car and thus I am saving another few thousand dollars every year, its fiscally a no brainer to live in the city. Dude, do you realize you're proving my point in spades? Why are you trying to convince me that living in a city is better than in the suburbs? I'm sure for a lot of people it is. But not for me. I don't care if you prefer living in the city over the suburbs. But you've amply demonstrated that you do care about the fact that I don't. And that's my original point. And I find it amusing that so many city dwellers care so much that there are people who don't share their preferences.
      - grapes4me 11y ago
        I never implied i cared really, don't be so defensive. My point, is that city living is objectively better than the suburbs, which is why i don't understand why people prefer to live in the burbs aisde from irrational and unfounded fears of crime.
- angmarsbane 11y ago
  Just because you live in a city doesn't mean you don't spend a lot of time driving. I live 5-6 miles from my office in Santa Monica and it has taken up to 50 minutes to get home.

JoeAltmaier 11y ago

I'll take my 80 acres of creek and wood, two outbuildings and no neighbors at all. Remote working is wonderful.

toomuchtodo 11y ago
Living the dream!

grapes4me 11y ago

I pay $100/mo (tax free) for unlimited public transit, which allows easy access to the airport. Most cars cost something like 8-9k just to own per year. You also make higher salaries in the city, and if you have a % 401k match, which doesn't cost you anything, well, that is money in the bank regardless if your expenses are higher. Not to mention, my commute is 30 minutes or less. One of my jobs my commute was 15 minutes via public transit. Have fun driving everywhere in the burbs and polluting the earth with tons of green house gasses.

rhapsodic 11y ago
Actually, I work remotely. I don't commute at all. The tone of your reply is what I was referring to. You sound angry and bitter because of the personal preferences I expressed. You obviously prefer public transit to driving your own car. I don't happen to share your view, but I'm not going to judge you or berate you because of it.
- JoeAltmaier 11y ago
  Agreed; its just sour grapes. I work remotely, and burn far less fuel out here in my earth-sheltered house in the country than some condo in the city. The car is the least of it - heating, cooking, utilities can dwarf the driving cost.
- grapes4me 11y ago
  Its not just commuting to work, its everything that comes with living close to things. Socializing is easier, there is more to do, more variety of restaurants and small businesses, better access to services (medical, government, library, etc), and world class entertainment. I'm within walking distance to most things I need even. I just don't understand why people would want to live in the suburbs over living in the country or the city. To me, the burbs are isolating and depressing; they are cultural waste lands. I don't have to to drive everywhere, or maintain a car and thus I am saving another few thousand dollars every year, its fiscally a no brainer to live in the city. if you are going to be a hermit, better off doing it in the country.
  - rhapsodic 11y ago
    > I just don't understand why people would want to live in the suburbs over living in the country or the city. To me, the burbs are isolating and depressing; they are cultural waste lands. I don't have to to drive everywhere, or maintain a car and thus I am saving another few thousand dollars every year, its fiscally a no brainer to live in the city. Dude, do you realize you're proving my point in spades? Why are you trying to convince me that living in a city is better than in the suburbs? I'm sure for a lot of people it is. But not for me. I don't care if you prefer living in the city over the suburbs. But you've amply demonstrated that you do care about the fact that I don't. And that's my original point. And I find it amusing that so many city dwellers care so much that there are people who don't share their preferences.
    - grapes4me 11y ago
      I never implied i cared really, don't be so defensive. My point, is that city living is objectively better than the suburbs, which is why i don't understand why people prefer to live in the burbs aisde from irrational and unfounded fears of crime.
angmarsbane 11y ago
Just because you live in a city doesn't mean you don't spend a lot of time driving. I live 5-6 miles from my office in Santa Monica and it has taken up to 50 minutes to get home.