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Apple.com vs. Microsoftstore.com 3rd party scripts

1 points by intrasight 11y ago

Apple, the world's most valuable company, has zero 3rd party scripts/trackers. Bravo. Microsoft has (according to uBlock Origin): bazaarvoice.com digitalrivercontent.net ensighten.com facebook.com gfx.ms liveperson.net onestore.ms optimizely.com pinterest.com twitter.com videochatmodule.com If Apple succeeds without all that crap, the obvious question is why do so many other companies feel compelled to use it?

nness 11y ago
Does it alter your experience of the Microsoft site in any way? Because I honestly can't see any point to your comparison besides to illustrate your own bias.
- mattkrea 11y ago
  I'd rather not be monitored while shopping. It's the same thing as an annoying Best Buy employee walking around while you shop in the store even if you have zero questions. Except in this case they then follow you around the rest of the internet. There is no reason for it and I'll pass.
objectief 11y ago
Tracking is getting a bit out of hand. Even the industry behind it is starting to recognize the problem. And, yes, it degrades the user experience. Install ghostery to your browser and be amazed how much faster the web feels without trackers and ads. No wonder, a site like IKEA is running 31 different trackers. What's the use? Apple does run Adobe's tracking software on some parts of their sites. But not much more. They already have server logs, why would they run external trackers anyway?
zer0defex 11y ago
Incorrect. All requests to metrics.apple.com and securemetrics.apple.com are going directly to Adobe Analytics, a third party analytics provider and part of the larger Adobe Marketing Cloud. The only reason the requests appear as 1st-party is down to Apple going through a few relatively simple steps that most companies do to configure their DNS to route a certain sub-domain specific to their analytics to an Adobe server and completing a first-party ssl cert request/setup process. Once the data enters the Adobe Marketing Cloud, depending on their specific implementation, they can then link that data across all kinds of other Adobe Marketing Cloud platforms to both track and target your ass down to the millisecond like everyone else. Boom, you've been third-partied. Adobe bought Demdex for fucks sake. 1st or 3rd party means jack shit these days.

1 points by intrasight 11y ago

nness 11y ago

Does it alter your experience of the Microsoft site in any way? Because I honestly can't see any point to your comparison besides to illustrate your own bias.

mattkrea 11y ago
I'd rather not be monitored while shopping. It's the same thing as an annoying Best Buy employee walking around while you shop in the store even if you have zero questions. Except in this case they then follow you around the rest of the internet. There is no reason for it and I'll pass.

objectief 11y ago

Tracking is getting a bit out of hand. Even the industry behind it is starting to recognize the problem. And, yes, it degrades the user experience. Install ghostery to your browser and be amazed how much faster the web feels without trackers and ads. No wonder, a site like IKEA is running 31 different trackers. What's the use? Apple does run Adobe's tracking software on some parts of their sites. But not much more. They already have server logs, why would they run external trackers anyway?

zer0defex 11y ago

Incorrect. All requests to metrics.apple.com and securemetrics.apple.com are going directly to Adobe Analytics, a third party analytics provider and part of the larger Adobe Marketing Cloud. The only reason the requests appear as 1st-party is down to Apple going through a few relatively simple steps that most companies do to configure their DNS to route a certain sub-domain specific to their analytics to an Adobe server and completing a first-party ssl cert request/setup process. Once the data enters the Adobe Marketing Cloud, depending on their specific implementation, they can then link that data across all kinds of other Adobe Marketing Cloud platforms to both track and target your ass down to the millisecond like everyone else. Boom, you've been third-partied. Adobe bought Demdex for fucks sake. 1st or 3rd party means jack shit these days.