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I can never understand this mentality. Can I keep you in terrible living conditions "because it's better than 30BC"? Judgement on inequality has to be relative

I can never understand this mentality. Can I keep you in terrible living conditions "because it's better than 30BC"? Judgement on inequality has to be relative to the here and now.

forrestthewoods 11y ago
You'll have to objectively define "terrible living conditions" on an international level. But sure. Go ahead. Issue your judgement. I'm curious.
SHIT_TALKER 11y ago
We don't determine "poverty" by living conditions but income. As someone who tries to "earn" as little as possible for tax-protest reasons, I can vouch for the parent commenter's statement. By picking the right location and work, I'm able to support a family on $20K (AGI) per year. The used cars I buy in cash get better every time I need to get another one. As people in my area moved to bigger houses in the perimeter of the city, I was able to buy a nice Victorian-era home with plenty of room for just north of the annual median U.S. income. (And I don't have a mortgage.) The home's location is easily walkable to schools, stores, shops, doctors, etc. My "living conditions" are really pretty great just making do with the castoff affluence around me. Yet my income level is considered by the federal government to be below the "poverty level". And compared to my great-grandparents, who were successful subsistence farmers, I'd say I have it pretty damn great as my "living conditions" are far superior to theirs, even though my "relative" poverty is greater.
nostrademons 11y ago
Why? Why is it better to compare yourself to the guy down the street than to compare yourself to your past self of 10 years ago? I've usually tried to compare myself vs. who I was 10 years ago, not to the people around me, and I suspect I've ended up significantly happier (and quite possibly wealthier) because of it.

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I can never understand this mentality. Can I keep you in terrible living conditions "because it's better than 30BC"? Judgement on inequality has to be relative

by branchless 11y ago

I can never understand this mentality. Can I keep you in terrible living conditions "because it's better than 30BC"? Judgement on inequality has to be relative to the here and now.

forrestthewoods 11y ago
You'll have to objectively define "terrible living conditions" on an international level. But sure. Go ahead. Issue your judgement. I'm curious.
SHIT_TALKER 11y ago
We don't determine "poverty" by living conditions but income. As someone who tries to "earn" as little as possible for tax-protest reasons, I can vouch for the parent commenter's statement. By picking the right location and work, I'm able to support a family on $20K (AGI) per year. The used cars I buy in cash get better every time I need to get another one. As people in my area moved to bigger houses in the perimeter of the city, I was able to buy a nice Victorian-era home with plenty of room for just north of the annual median U.S. income. (And I don't have a mortgage.) The home's location is easily walkable to schools, stores, shops, doctors, etc. My "living conditions" are really pretty great just making do with the castoff affluence around me. Yet my income level is considered by the federal government to be below the "poverty level". And compared to my great-grandparents, who were successful subsistence farmers, I'd say I have it pretty damn great as my "living conditions" are far superior to theirs, even though my "relative" poverty is greater.
nostrademons 11y ago
Why? Why is it better to compare yourself to the guy down the street than to compare yourself to your past self of 10 years ago? I've usually tried to compare myself vs. who I was 10 years ago, not to the people around me, and I suspect I've ended up significantly happier (and quite possibly wealthier) because of it.