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I believe the reasoning is that climate change will destabilise regions leading to world conflict. The major destabilisation will come from resource shift, suc

I believe the reasoning is that climate change will destabilise regions leading to world conflict. The major destabilisation will come from resource shift, such as water scarcity/abundance, leading to land conflict leading to major players (US/Russia/China/Europe) posturing. It may seem like 'serious inconvenience' but if Europe suddenly had it's gas supply cut off by Russia and diplomacy failed do you not think they would mobilise their army BEFORE the eastern European winter arrives? The same would be true if water were scarce. The dependencies between major blocks of our species are changing and climate change will strain relations.

jacquesm 17y ago
> if Europe suddenly had it's gas supply cut off by Russia and diplomacy failed do you not think they would mobilise their army BEFORE the eastern European winter arrives? No, they would not. If you thought that Europe would go to war with Russia over natural gas then you're somewhat out of touch with the European sentiment on starting wars, and on the ability of Russia to fend off invaders.
- vixen99 17y ago
  "It's" is only ever an abbreviation for "it is'.i.e.,"its gas supply". Otherwise articulate and smart people seem to have difficulty with this. I can't fathom out why.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Thank you for correcting my ability to quote. Otherwise articulate and smart people seem to have no problem in finding out which part of a text is original and which part has been quoted.
- dimitar 17y ago
  Or most importantly on the ability of Europe to adapt relatively quickly without Russian resources :-) Even if Russia cuts off all energy exports to Europe, Europeans will not freeze to death - energy will just get more expensive.
- dazzawazza 17y ago
  I'm well aware of Russia's ability to defend itself. I'm also well aware of Europes sentiment of starting wars. The last two world wars have originated there. A possible outcome of climate change is severe winters across all of Nothern Europe (severe as in Russian style -20). Without Russian supplies Europe's reserves and import terminals (Wales and Italy) would not be able to supply enough liquified natural gas to keep Europeans warm all winter. Anyway, the point is that climate change can cause international tension and that was the reasoning for it being part of the death clock.

jacquesm 17y ago

> if Europe suddenly had it's gas supply cut off by Russia and diplomacy failed do you not think they would mobilise their army BEFORE the eastern European winter arrives? No, they would not. If you thought that Europe would go to war with Russia over natural gas then you're somewhat out of touch with the European sentiment on starting wars, and on the ability of Russia to fend off invaders.

vixen99 17y ago
"It's" is only ever an abbreviation for "it is'.i.e.,"its gas supply". Otherwise articulate and smart people seem to have difficulty with this. I can't fathom out why.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Thank you for correcting my ability to quote. Otherwise articulate and smart people seem to have no problem in finding out which part of a text is original and which part has been quoted.
dimitar 17y ago
Or most importantly on the ability of Europe to adapt relatively quickly without Russian resources :-) Even if Russia cuts off all energy exports to Europe, Europeans will not freeze to death - energy will just get more expensive.
dazzawazza 17y ago
I'm well aware of Russia's ability to defend itself. I'm also well aware of Europes sentiment of starting wars. The last two world wars have originated there. A possible outcome of climate change is severe winters across all of Nothern Europe (severe as in Russian style -20). Without Russian supplies Europe's reserves and import terminals (Wales and Italy) would not be able to supply enough liquified natural gas to keep Europeans warm all winter. Anyway, the point is that climate change can cause international tension and that was the reasoning for it being part of the death clock.