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But surprisingly it doesn't ban you from searching on this, unlike searching for "google.blogspot.com": http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=google.blogspot.com http://www

by chrisb 17y ago

But surprisingly it doesn't ban you from searching on this, unlike searching for "google.blogspot.com": http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=google.blogspot.com http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=google.blogspot.com Edit: I realise this has been pointed out before, but I find it curious that "google.blogspot.com" gets you banned, but "Tiananmen square massacre" doesn't.

jacquesm 17y ago
I think you should be taking in to account the IP address you're searching from as well as the language that you are searching in. My guess is that searching from within China and in Chinese would yield different results. Maybe someone on the other side of the great firewall could run a test ? On second thoughts, maybe better not...
- chrischen 17y ago
  I have a friend vacationing in china. Searching baidu for google.blogspot.com does get you banned. Not sure about other stuff though.
- chrisb 17y ago
  I doubt that the IP address I'm searching from has much to do with it, as it they won't show any more results to me (who isn't in China), presumably they won't show any more results to someone who is in China. Although I agree the language of the search term might have an effect. If anyone can try this in Chinese I'd be interested in the result.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    > presumably they won't show any more results to someone who is in China. But they might show different results or even less of them.
    - chrisb 17y ago
      Agreed. Contrasted with the > 1,000,000 results on google.com And curiously, google.cn gives ~42,000 results - and they still say they are censoring (据当地法律法规和政策，部分搜索结果未予显示。 = According to local laws, regulations and policies, some search results are not shown.)
      - jacquesm 17y ago
        I had this really weird idea: allow proxied access to google from any webserver. Simply reconfigure apache on a world-wide basis to allow it to proxy requests for search results. The 'great firewall' would presumably have a bit of an issue with filtering out all the websites on the planet running apache.
        bensummers 17y ago
        Since they do content based filtering (sending a RST if they don't like the contents of your packet) the actual IP address of the server returning search results is irrelevant.
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Any page with 10 or more links on them is supect then. I'm fairly sure that if they blocked all forms and all results pages with more than 10 links on them that the internet would cease to be an asset to China. Censorship is a delicate thing, censor too little and it is useless, censor too much and you might wake the dragon.
        bensummers 17y ago
        Don't you think they'd block on keywords, not link counts? These people aren't stupid, and are supplied by purveyors of the very best western technology.
        jacquesm 17y ago

by chrisb 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago

I think you should be taking in to account the IP address you're searching from as well as the language that you are searching in. My guess is that searching from within China and in Chinese would yield different results. Maybe someone on the other side of the great firewall could run a test ? On second thoughts, maybe better not...

chrischen 17y ago
I have a friend vacationing in china. Searching baidu for google.blogspot.com does get you banned. Not sure about other stuff though.
chrisb 17y ago
I doubt that the IP address I'm searching from has much to do with it, as it they won't show any more results to me (who isn't in China), presumably they won't show any more results to someone who is in China. Although I agree the language of the search term might have an effect. If anyone can try this in Chinese I'd be interested in the result.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  > presumably they won't show any more results to someone who is in China. But they might show different results or even less of them.
  - chrisb 17y ago
    Agreed. Contrasted with the > 1,000,000 results on google.com And curiously, google.cn gives ~42,000 results - and they still say they are censoring (据当地法律法规和政策，部分搜索结果未予显示。 = According to local laws, regulations and policies, some search results are not shown.)
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      I had this really weird idea: allow proxied access to google from any webserver. Simply reconfigure apache on a world-wide basis to allow it to proxy requests for search results. The 'great firewall' would presumably have a bit of an issue with filtering out all the websites on the planet running apache.
      - bensummers 17y ago
        Since they do content based filtering (sending a RST if they don't like the contents of your packet) the actual IP address of the server returning search results is irrelevant.
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Any page with 10 or more links on them is supect then. I'm fairly sure that if they blocked all forms and all results pages with more than 10 links on them that the internet would cease to be an asset to China. Censorship is a delicate thing, censor too little and it is useless, censor too much and you might wake the dragon.
        bensummers 17y ago
        Don't you think they'd block on keywords, not link counts? These people aren't stupid, and are supplied by purveyors of the very best western technology.
        jacquesm 17y ago