> There have absolutely been engineers barred from engineering for selling shitty designs. This is patently false. Engineer is a title that can be applied to a

> There have absolutely been engineers barred from engineering for selling shitty designs. This is patently false. Engineer is a title that can be applied to a person in countless types of engineering. Your statement simply cannot be true as it's not even feasible to bar someone from all types of engineering. > Until then, you're using one word to refer to two groups of people with wildly different work requirements, and there will always be people complaining about that. No it's the same word. There are people who engineer physical things that do not require certifications, governing bodies, etc. You're drawing a very, very dotted line saying one side is an engineer and the other is not which is just arbitrary.