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I find it curious that virtually any negative or critical comments about Go get downvoted.

by jinst8gmi 11y ago

thebouv 11y ago
Have they been constructive, or just random negative noise?
penetrarthur 11y ago
Because you don't insult someone when it's his birthday!
- lobster_johnson 11y ago
  On the other hand, honouring people by roasting [1] them is also tradition. Maybe if the criticisms were funnier. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_(comedy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_(comedy)
dilap 11y ago
I've been having this vision for a while of making a HN-style site where you have to explicitly tag your comment as 'in agreement' or 'in critique'. (And also maybe a slightly hidden away, 'off topic, but that reminds me...' section.) Then you could, for example, browse the ed column of birthday wishes & happy usage stories of Go, say on the left hand side, and then also, scroll through the op-ed right column of dissenters and critiques. There's just something very disheartening about having a bunch of "anti X" dominating what you were hoping would be a discussion of "X"; downvoting is certainly not the right solution -- it's fine to be anti-X, it just needs a little bit of its own space.
- steveklabnik 11y ago
  Slashdot had this concept of modifiers, so you could say "+1 Insightful" or "-1 Troll". "+1 Funny" didn't give you any karma.
  - dilap 11y ago
    Ahhh, slashdot, those were the days. :) My idea is different, though -- the essence is (1) you'd self-tag -- imagine clicking 'in support' or 'in opposition' to comment. And then (2), those two different sets of comments would go into different parts of the page. Maybe a two-column view? Maybe separate pages? Basically, conversations in a single-section format like HN are constantly getting overrun by criticism. Criticism is interesting and has its place, but it tends to be noiser, and it's disheartening when it's getting in the way of something you want to be excited about.

I find it curious that virtually any negative or critical comments about Go get downvoted.

thebouv 11y ago

Have they been constructive, or just random negative noise?

penetrarthur 11y ago

Because you don't insult someone when it's his birthday!

lobster_johnson 11y ago
On the other hand, honouring people by roasting [1] them is also tradition. Maybe if the criticisms were funnier. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_(comedy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roast_(comedy)

dilap 11y ago

I've been having this vision for a while of making a HN-style site where you have to explicitly tag your comment as 'in agreement' or 'in critique'. (And also maybe a slightly hidden away, 'off topic, but that reminds me...' section.) Then you could, for example, browse the ed column of birthday wishes & happy usage stories of Go, say on the left hand side, and then also, scroll through the op-ed right column of dissenters and critiques. There's just something very disheartening about having a bunch of "anti X" dominating what you were hoping would be a discussion of "X"; downvoting is certainly not the right solution -- it's fine to be anti-X, it just needs a little bit of its own space.

steveklabnik 11y ago
Slashdot had this concept of modifiers, so you could say "+1 Insightful" or "-1 Troll". "+1 Funny" didn't give you any karma.
- dilap 11y ago
  Ahhh, slashdot, those were the days. :) My idea is different, though -- the essence is (1) you'd self-tag -- imagine clicking 'in support' or 'in opposition' to comment. And then (2), those two different sets of comments would go into different parts of the page. Maybe a two-column view? Maybe separate pages? Basically, conversations in a single-section format like HN are constantly getting overrun by criticism. Criticism is interesting and has its place, but it tends to be noiser, and it's disheartening when it's getting in the way of something you want to be excited about.