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I think it's pretty simple: you can call yourself an engineer if you graduated from an engineering program and have a P.Eng otherwise you're not and depending o

I think it's pretty simple: you can call yourself an engineer if you graduated from an engineering program and have a P.Eng otherwise you're not and depending on your jurisdiction you may not be able to legally use the title.

otoburb 11y ago
For those that are unaware as the article didn't dive into this: P.Eng. is the Canadian designation[1]. The American equivalent is PE[2]. It is unfortunate but understandable that one must undergo re-licensing in a different country due to lack of reciprocity licensing agreements, unlike the M.D. designation between Canada and the US. >>In Canada, many civil engineers wear an iron ring symbolizing the ethical commitment their profession undertakes. Regardless of which engineering discipline a person chose, most engineering graduates wear their iron rings[3]. Note that wearing an iron ring does not automatically entitle one to the P.Eng. designation - it only means the person graduated from an undergraduate engineering program. [1] http://www.engineerscanada.ca/frequently-asked-questions http://www.engineerscanada.ca/frequently-asked-questions [2] http://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe http://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe [3] Anecdata
Armisael16 11y ago
That's tossing out an awful lot of people - the vast majority of PEs are in civil or mechanical. It isn't necessary for almost any other field - electrical, chemical, materials...
- etimberg 11y ago
  Agreed, addressing the fact that it's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point is a whole other issue. If very few developers are professional engineers, even less new graduates can become one.
kabdib 11y ago
Meh on the degree. I've known quite a few people without degrees who can engineer rings around folks with those pieces of paper. If there needs to be a test, make it like the Bar; you don't have to attend law school to pass (though it helps a lot!). Actually measure the thing being controlled or categorized. [Licensing comes up every once in a while. The last time I looked at one of the licensing programs for software, it was about fifty percent EE. Really not sure what impedance and amplifier design have to do with writing software. Frankly, it looked like a politically motivated power grab by some folks who wanted to gatekeep the market. "Nice career you have there, bub; it 'ud be a mighty shame if something . . . happened to it, right?"].

otoburb 11y ago

For those that are unaware as the article didn't dive into this: P.Eng. is the Canadian designation[1]. The American equivalent is PE[2]. It is unfortunate but understandable that one must undergo re-licensing in a different country due to lack of reciprocity licensing agreements, unlike the M.D. designation between Canada and the US. >>In Canada, many civil engineers wear an iron ring symbolizing the ethical commitment their profession undertakes. Regardless of which engineering discipline a person chose, most engineering graduates wear their iron rings[3]. Note that wearing an iron ring does not automatically entitle one to the P.Eng. designation - it only means the person graduated from an undergraduate engineering program. [1] http://www.engineerscanada.ca/frequently-asked-questions http://www.engineerscanada.ca/frequently-asked-questions [2] http://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe http://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe [3] Anecdata

Armisael16 11y ago

That's tossing out an awful lot of people - the vast majority of PEs are in civil or mechanical. It isn't necessary for almost any other field - electrical, chemical, materials...

etimberg 11y ago
Agreed, addressing the fact that it's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point is a whole other issue. If very few developers are professional engineers, even less new graduates can become one.

kabdib 11y ago

Meh on the degree. I've known quite a few people without degrees who can engineer rings around folks with those pieces of paper. If there needs to be a test, make it like the Bar; you don't have to attend law school to pass (though it helps a lot!). Actually measure the thing being controlled or categorized. [Licensing comes up every once in a while. The last time I looked at one of the licensing programs for software, it was about fifty percent EE. Really not sure what impedance and amplifier design have to do with writing software. Frankly, it looked like a politically motivated power grab by some folks who wanted to gatekeep the market. "Nice career you have there, bub; it 'ud be a mighty shame if something . . . happened to it, right?"].