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> vitamin C has no side effects I'm not aware of evidence that this is true for megadoses (e.g. 10g per day, as you mentioned). Given that you are making a cl

> vitamin C has no side effects I'm not aware of evidence that this is true for megadoses (e.g. 10g per day, as you mentioned). Given that you are making a claim not supported by mainstream medical consensus (that megadoses of vitamin C have positive health effects), you are essentially arguing that megadoses of Vitamin C have a different effect than regular doses. Given that you admit that megadoses have a different effect to regular doses, what is your evidence that megadoses have no side effects?

liberale 11y ago
Toxicity of vit-c is very low. Death by vit-c overdose is un-heard of. Intaking enough vit-c to cause death, could be due to sheer weight of substance intaken rather than bio-chemical function of vit-c. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Overdose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Overdose Also studies conducted on animals (especially primates) that cannot synthesize vit-c on their own, show that they intake about upto 80x the RDA value of vitamin-c. So, humans intake as low as 1.25% of vit-c levels that monkeys eat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Daily_requirements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Daily_requirements Most often than not, RDA values are a joke and should be treated as bare minimum levels to prevent diseases such as scurvy and not as the optimum level. Sub-clinical deficiency in essential vitamins and minerals always happen.
- majkinetor 11y ago
  Correcrt. Primates take vit. C in grams naturally for example.
  - liberale 11y ago
    Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?
    - majkinetor 11y ago
      > Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? There isn't any that I am aware of except bowel tolerance method. IMO, timing during healthy state is relaxed - twice per day is probably enough for most people; during stress however individual dose shouldn't be higher but should be taken more frequently (until bowel starts to complain, which means C is not absorbed any more and passes to colon where it causes diarrhea trough osmosis). What is remarkable here is the difference between bowel tolerance in healthy (low) and disease (high) state which suggests that vitamin C absorption increases. See my answer here: http://www.paleohacks.com/vitamins/vitamin-c-supplementation-9354#axzz1dTP3TGk6 http://www.paleohacks.com/vitamins/vitamin-c-supplementation... > Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? I take pure synthetic AA with sodium bicarbonate half of the time (3-5g x2). I don't have experience with liposomal vit-c but I am sure it is way better then regular C, altho far more expensive. > Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise? I don't have one at hand now. Some people think it prevents adaptation during exercise and don't take it. I personaly think it reduces stress so it simply gives you an option to work more. Since exercise can actually reduce your immune system if you overdo it or have concurrent stressor, AA intake will certainly be more beneficial on the long run then any supposed adaptation shortcomings.
      - liberale 11y ago
        Awesome, thanks a lot.
majkinetor 11y ago
Yes , metabolism of vit C changes during desease which is easily checked on your own with bowel tollerance method. The claim it is not supported by mainstream medicine is nonsence. Like I said its not investigated. Only small doses are.
- gabemart 11y ago
  How could it possibly be supported if you admit it has not been investigated?
  - majkinetor 11y ago
    What I ment is that it is nonsence as it was never tested. You cant support or not support anything without proper reproduction which was never done.

liberale 11y ago

Toxicity of vit-c is very low. Death by vit-c overdose is un-heard of. Intaking enough vit-c to cause death, could be due to sheer weight of substance intaken rather than bio-chemical function of vit-c. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Overdose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Overdose Also studies conducted on animals (especially primates) that cannot synthesize vit-c on their own, show that they intake about upto 80x the RDA value of vitamin-c. So, humans intake as low as 1.25% of vit-c levels that monkeys eat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Daily_requirements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Daily_requirements Most often than not, RDA values are a joke and should be treated as bare minimum levels to prevent diseases such as scurvy and not as the optimum level. Sub-clinical deficiency in essential vitamins and minerals always happen.

majkinetor 11y ago
Correcrt. Primates take vit. C in grams naturally for example.
- liberale 11y ago
  Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?
  - majkinetor 11y ago
    > Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? There isn't any that I am aware of except bowel tolerance method. IMO, timing during healthy state is relaxed - twice per day is probably enough for most people; during stress however individual dose shouldn't be higher but should be taken more frequently (until bowel starts to complain, which means C is not absorbed any more and passes to colon where it causes diarrhea trough osmosis). What is remarkable here is the difference between bowel tolerance in healthy (low) and disease (high) state which suggests that vitamin C absorption increases. See my answer here: http://www.paleohacks.com/vitamins/vitamin-c-supplementation-9354#axzz1dTP3TGk6 http://www.paleohacks.com/vitamins/vitamin-c-supplementation... > Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? I take pure synthetic AA with sodium bicarbonate half of the time (3-5g x2). I don't have experience with liposomal vit-c but I am sure it is way better then regular C, altho far more expensive. > Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise? I don't have one at hand now. Some people think it prevents adaptation during exercise and don't take it. I personaly think it reduces stress so it simply gives you an option to work more. Since exercise can actually reduce your immune system if you overdo it or have concurrent stressor, AA intake will certainly be more beneficial on the long run then any supposed adaptation shortcomings.
    - liberale 11y ago
      Awesome, thanks a lot.

majkinetor 11y ago

Yes , metabolism of vit C changes during desease which is easily checked on your own with bowel tollerance method. The claim it is not supported by mainstream medicine is nonsence. Like I said its not investigated. Only small doses are.

gabemart 11y ago
How could it possibly be supported if you admit it has not been investigated?
- majkinetor 11y ago
  What I ment is that it is nonsence as it was never tested. You cant support or not support anything without proper reproduction which was never done.