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10/10 using the fade-out at the end. Choice of clip is a poor example of the benefits of higher sample depth, because the dynamics are relatively constant and t

10/10 using the fade-out at the end. Choice of clip is a poor example of the benefits of higher sample depth, because the dynamics are relatively constant and there are a lot of noisy overtones. Having $700 headphones helps, too.

DiThi 11y ago
10/10 too by listening to the fade-out, with a bluetooth headset.
mod 11y ago
10/10 using the fade out, with cheap ass gaming headphones, and not knowing the first goddamn thing about sound, bitrates, what to listen for, or anything in this thread, except seeing your comment first. The fade outs just seemed fuzzy. Edit: I also have no idea if this goes for or against audiophiles. Maybe both? I know they're largely ridiculed.
- ubercore 11y ago
  Depends on the kind of audiophile you're talking about I guess. I think the easily identified difference shows that 8bit just isn't enough, and audiophiles that say bit depth matters are validated. But 24bit just isn't necessary for consumer audio. Plenty of audiophiles will insist on it still, though. They're the crazy ones
morsch 11y ago
Using the fade out makes it trivial to detect. Listening closely with headphones it's fairly easy (i.e. get 9+ right) to hear it in the first couple of seconds and throughout the song as well. I guess there's a reason we use 16 bits. Now I want to try it with 24 bits, maybe with a song that has more quiet parts in it. Edit: The other test using Gangnam Style is much harder to detect (for me), I scored 6/10 on my first attempt (and I won't try again, hearing that riff 10 times in a row is plenty): http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit.php http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit.php
- ubercore 11y ago
  Yeah. The whole thing about these tests is that it's like testing whether you can tell a solid black box in an 8bit or 16bit png. Yeah there cases where you'll see the difference and ones that you won't. Why pick such limited examples, when it effectively undercuts _any_ value the test might have in terms of people's perception of bit depth?
heywire 11y ago
Same here, but as I listened to more samples, I started hearing the noise throughout the sample, a swishing sound mixed in with the music. $25 headphones here (Sennheiser HD202).

DiThi 11y ago

10/10 too by listening to the fade-out, with a bluetooth headset.

mod 11y ago

10/10 using the fade out, with cheap ass gaming headphones, and not knowing the first goddamn thing about sound, bitrates, what to listen for, or anything in this thread, except seeing your comment first. The fade outs just seemed fuzzy. Edit: I also have no idea if this goes for or against audiophiles. Maybe both? I know they're largely ridiculed.

ubercore 11y ago
Depends on the kind of audiophile you're talking about I guess. I think the easily identified difference shows that 8bit just isn't enough, and audiophiles that say bit depth matters are validated. But 24bit just isn't necessary for consumer audio. Plenty of audiophiles will insist on it still, though. They're the crazy ones

morsch 11y ago

Using the fade out makes it trivial to detect. Listening closely with headphones it's fairly easy (i.e. get 9+ right) to hear it in the first couple of seconds and throughout the song as well. I guess there's a reason we use 16 bits. Now I want to try it with 24 bits, maybe with a song that has more quiet parts in it. Edit: The other test using Gangnam Style is much harder to detect (for me), I scored 6/10 on my first attempt (and I won't try again, hearing that riff 10 times in a row is plenty): http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit.php http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit.php

ubercore 11y ago
Yeah. The whole thing about these tests is that it's like testing whether you can tell a solid black box in an 8bit or 16bit png. Yeah there cases where you'll see the difference and ones that you won't. Why pick such limited examples, when it effectively undercuts _any_ value the test might have in terms of people's perception of bit depth?

heywire 11y ago

Same here, but as I listened to more samples, I started hearing the noise throughout the sample, a swishing sound mixed in with the music. $25 headphones here (Sennheiser HD202).