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Yeah ... I'm a big fan of data-flow programming (Been working on my own approach for a little while too ...)

elcritch 11y ago
Nice, lol, hope TensorFlow didn't scoop any of your ideas too. ;) Overall, it's exciting to see data-flow paradigms gain popularity. What kind of dataflow approach are you most interested in? I've been shifting my approach to work within existing systems. One things I've been doing is abusing the intent of web-components and DOM events to create data visualization tools. Recently my team and I decided to focus down a little more. Have you had success in bridging the gap between esoteric academic papers and industry?
- w_t_payne 11y ago
  Nothing too serious ... mostly to glue embedded machine vision system components together in a simulation environment.
  - hmehta 11y ago
    Do you guys know of any theoretical analysis on Data flow vs Control flow software ?
    - kragen 11y ago
      This comment is not being answered, not because there is none, but because there is far too much to fit a good summary of it into this margin. It includes most of modern compiler and CPU design, as well as most current HPC work.
      - elcritch 11y ago
        That's a fair point overall. It's basically the entirety of the debate between functional languages and imperative languages. Nonetheless, it is still pretty good question as far as someone trying to understand the differences and why it might be useful. @hmehta, one of my recent favorite videos generally on this topic has been from Curry On conference [1]. It's not strictly data-flow vs control flow, but it does discuss some of the more practical differences in between using monads for structuring data flows vs imperative control. My take is that monads can be roughly considered as wrapping up imperative control flow along with the data. E.g. wrapping up the if/else choices into a data structure. Currently I actually found studying up on actual category theory easier than all the "easy introduction" things regarding monads. As in, the ideas when presented straightforwardly and technically correct are simpler than we give credence to. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=449j7oKQVkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=449j7oKQVkc

Nice, lol, hope TensorFlow didn't scoop any of your ideas too. ;) Overall, it's exciting to see data-flow paradigms gain popularity. What kind of dataflow approach are you most interested in? I've been shifting my approach to work within existing systems. One things I've been doing is abusing the intent of web-components and DOM events to create data visualization tools. Recently my team and I decided to focus down a little more. Have you had success in bridging the gap between esoteric academic papers and industry?

w_t_payne 11y ago
Nothing too serious ... mostly to glue embedded machine vision system components together in a simulation environment.
- hmehta 11y ago
  Do you guys know of any theoretical analysis on Data flow vs Control flow software ?
  - kragen 11y ago
    This comment is not being answered, not because there is none, but because there is far too much to fit a good summary of it into this margin. It includes most of modern compiler and CPU design, as well as most current HPC work.
    - elcritch 11y ago
      That's a fair point overall. It's basically the entirety of the debate between functional languages and imperative languages. Nonetheless, it is still pretty good question as far as someone trying to understand the differences and why it might be useful. @hmehta, one of my recent favorite videos generally on this topic has been from Curry On conference [1]. It's not strictly data-flow vs control flow, but it does discuss some of the more practical differences in between using monads for structuring data flows vs imperative control. My take is that monads can be roughly considered as wrapping up imperative control flow along with the data. E.g. wrapping up the if/else choices into a data structure. Currently I actually found studying up on actual category theory easier than all the "easy introduction" things regarding monads. As in, the ideas when presented straightforwardly and technically correct are simpler than we give credence to. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=449j7oKQVkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=449j7oKQVkc