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Seriously? Look, it is plain rude to park directly in front of someone's drive. There's no two ways about that. I should not have to be go and park my car somew

Seriously? Look, it is plain rude to park directly in front of someone's drive. There's no two ways about that. I should not have to be go and park my car somewhere else because people can't be bothered to not be rude. I have plenty of property in front of my house that they could have parked (it's 25 extra feet they would have had to walk). That's what plenty of other people were doing. There's plenty of open space on the other side of the street as well.

donatj 11y ago
Rude? Yes. An actual inconvenience to you? Unlikely.
- Retra 11y ago
  Rudeness is an inconvenience.
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anon4 11y ago
Isn't it outright illegal? Can't you get them towed?
- donatj 11y ago
  Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes. By the time the tow truck would arrive they would be long gone. This is at its heart the reason why this is an overzealous non-problem.
  - spdustin 11y ago
    There are a lot of other crimes that can be committed before law enforcement would arrive. Would you suggest those are non-issues as well? It's hard for me to believe that you're not being a troll on purpose, and that you honestly are the sort of selfish person that you would deny someone access to or from their own home. Oh, wait, I think I get it. You don't own a house? That must be it. You're not a selfish jerk, you're simply ignorant of the challenges of protecting your right of way in case you need to rush your kid to the doctor's office, or have an appointment you're running late to. Oh hold on... You're a homeowner with no kids and no appointments because you're never late and have immaculate foresight into the wandering a of strangers? Surely you're just ignorant of the law th...Hang on, you acknowledged the illegality of blocking the driveway, and told the homeowner to suck it up. So you are either a troll or a selfish person with no respect for property or the law. Stay off my driveway. And my lawn.
    - donatj 11y ago
      I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have my priorities straight. Having your driveway blocked for a couple minutes isn't the end of the world. If you don't have a couple minutes to spare in your day for something that may go wrong you're headed for trouble. Things go wrong constantly, that's life. You can either laugh or get worked up into a froth. You'll live longer doing the prior. As for crimes, I would say victimless ones such as this should go unpunished. Costing someone hundreds of dollars to get their car back because they mildly inconvenienced you? You're doing far more harm to them than they did to you. That kind of enforcement just makes the world a much more unfriendly place, and does not serve the common good.
      - JustSomeNobody 11y ago
        I was cool headed when i asked them to please not block my driveway. They got hot headed and argued because they are rude people. I couldn't potentially drive through my grass yard (if I had needed to) because all the non rude people were properly and legally parking along the grass in front of my house. (At various times, sure, I could, but not always. It was a pretty popular event). Edit: For clarity.
      - criddell 11y ago
        > I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. That's great. Would you park and block somebody's driveway?
        donatj 11y ago
        If I was running to a yard sale for a couple minutes and there was nowhere else to park? Of course.
  - mistercow 11y ago
    > Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes That would be an exceptionally short visit to a yard sale. No way do you actually manage to buy something in less than 180 seconds. More likely, they'll be there for 10-15 minutes. That's still too short for a tow truck to come, but it's not too short to be an inconvenience.
    - vollmond 11y ago
      Of course, most people don't buy. At least for me, I probably only buy something at ever 4th or 5th yard sale I go to. It's easy to walk in, scan the tables, realize there's nothing of interest to me, and leave.
      - donatj 11y ago
        Yep, that's 90% of people.
gburt 11y ago
You are being unreasonable. The grandparent is correct. Any parker would've left in less than 5 minutes. You would not have even known they were there. If they did not leave and you needed out, you could have simply asked them to leave. Property rights in this strange absolutist never-to-be-violated interpretation would make a hell of a world. Dropped your wallet? WELL, I CAN'T PICK IT UP FOR YOU BECAUSE THAT'S THEFT OF YOUR PROPERTY.
- klibertp 11y ago
  > Property rights in this strange absolutist never-to-be-violated interpretation I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that. It may be a cultural thing, I don't see such strong opinions in my country very often.
- JustSomeNobody 11y ago
  Actually, not picking up the wallet would be considered rude. This isn't about property. It's about manners. I'm sorry the sequence of events that has led up to your life at this moment prevent you from differentiating.
ianstallings 11y ago
So you sit there waiting for someone to be rude so you can pounce on them? I'm sorry but that's petty. Don't you have anything better to do? And that's not going to make for good neighbors. Now they know you're that guy that acts like a unreasonable person.

donatj 11y ago

Rude? Yes. An actual inconvenience to you? Unlikely.

Retra 11y ago
Rudeness is an inconvenience.
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anon4 11y ago

Isn't it outright illegal? Can't you get them towed?

donatj 11y ago
Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes. By the time the tow truck would arrive they would be long gone. This is at its heart the reason why this is an overzealous non-problem.
- spdustin 11y ago
  There are a lot of other crimes that can be committed before law enforcement would arrive. Would you suggest those are non-issues as well? It's hard for me to believe that you're not being a troll on purpose, and that you honestly are the sort of selfish person that you would deny someone access to or from their own home. Oh, wait, I think I get it. You don't own a house? That must be it. You're not a selfish jerk, you're simply ignorant of the challenges of protecting your right of way in case you need to rush your kid to the doctor's office, or have an appointment you're running late to. Oh hold on... You're a homeowner with no kids and no appointments because you're never late and have immaculate foresight into the wandering a of strangers? Surely you're just ignorant of the law th...Hang on, you acknowledged the illegality of blocking the driveway, and told the homeowner to suck it up. So you are either a troll or a selfish person with no respect for property or the law. Stay off my driveway. And my lawn.
  - donatj 11y ago
    I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have my priorities straight. Having your driveway blocked for a couple minutes isn't the end of the world. If you don't have a couple minutes to spare in your day for something that may go wrong you're headed for trouble. Things go wrong constantly, that's life. You can either laugh or get worked up into a froth. You'll live longer doing the prior. As for crimes, I would say victimless ones such as this should go unpunished. Costing someone hundreds of dollars to get their car back because they mildly inconvenienced you? You're doing far more harm to them than they did to you. That kind of enforcement just makes the world a much more unfriendly place, and does not serve the common good.
    - JustSomeNobody 11y ago
      I was cool headed when i asked them to please not block my driveway. They got hot headed and argued because they are rude people. I couldn't potentially drive through my grass yard (if I had needed to) because all the non rude people were properly and legally parking along the grass in front of my house. (At various times, sure, I could, but not always. It was a pretty popular event). Edit: For clarity.
    - criddell 11y ago
      > I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. That's great. Would you park and block somebody's driveway?
      - donatj 11y ago
        If I was running to a yard sale for a couple minutes and there was nowhere else to park? Of course.
- mistercow 11y ago
  > Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes That would be an exceptionally short visit to a yard sale. No way do you actually manage to buy something in less than 180 seconds. More likely, they'll be there for 10-15 minutes. That's still too short for a tow truck to come, but it's not too short to be an inconvenience.
  - vollmond 11y ago
    Of course, most people don't buy. At least for me, I probably only buy something at ever 4th or 5th yard sale I go to. It's easy to walk in, scan the tables, realize there's nothing of interest to me, and leave.
    - donatj 11y ago
      Yep, that's 90% of people.

gburt 11y ago

You are being unreasonable. The grandparent is correct. Any parker would've left in less than 5 minutes. You would not have even known they were there. If they did not leave and you needed out, you could have simply asked them to leave. Property rights in this strange absolutist never-to-be-violated interpretation would make a hell of a world. Dropped your wallet? WELL, I CAN'T PICK IT UP FOR YOU BECAUSE THAT'S THEFT OF YOUR PROPERTY.

klibertp 11y ago
> Property rights in this strange absolutist never-to-be-violated interpretation I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that. It may be a cultural thing, I don't see such strong opinions in my country very often.
JustSomeNobody 11y ago
Actually, not picking up the wallet would be considered rude. This isn't about property. It's about manners. I'm sorry the sequence of events that has led up to your life at this moment prevent you from differentiating.

ianstallings 11y ago

So you sit there waiting for someone to be rude so you can pounce on them? I'm sorry but that's petty. Don't you have anything better to do? And that's not going to make for good neighbors. Now they know you're that guy that acts like a unreasonable person.