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If they declare that those V8 engines have been manufactured to meet emissions standards set by governments to try and reduce the health and environmental toll

by swombat 11y ago

If they declare that those V8 engines have been manufactured to meet emissions standards set by governments to try and reduce the health and environmental toll of emissions, and therefore allow those V8 engines to be mass-manufactured and included in hundreds of thousands of new cars that would otherwise have contained less polluting engines, then obviously yes? It's not working on the V8 engines that's the problem, it's lying about their emissions. I'm not sure how you don't see this? Based on your tone you seem to think you're making some sort of sarcastically clever point, but I'm not sure what it is? (or maybe I'm misreading this)

gambiting 11y ago
Your're saying that higher pollution causes more deaths and is therefore morally wrong, so have a look at Mercedes C-Class - you can have it with a relatively small 2.0L petrol(or even 1.8L if I remember correctly) or a massive 6.3L V8 petrol engine. The V8 will always pollute more. So why would it matter, if the V8 is "meeting emissions standards" - it's still poluting more than the 2.0L engine. So my question is - if lying about emissions of the 2.0L engine is "being morally responsible for people dying due to pollution", how is that not true for their 6.3L V8 engines(which are fully compliant, but pollute more nevertheless)?
- swombat 11y ago
  The difference is that the government has put in place systems to deal with these higher polluting vehicles. It taxes them more, to discourage people from owning them. By lying about the pollution levels, the engineers are encouraging people to own more polluting engines. Not only is this obviously unethical since it involves lying with the purpose of breaking a law, but this law also happens to be designed to try and reduce the deadly effects of pollution. So such behaviour is, I say again, obviously indirectly linked to more people dying.

by swombat 11y ago

gambiting 11y ago

Your're saying that higher pollution causes more deaths and is therefore morally wrong, so have a look at Mercedes C-Class - you can have it with a relatively small 2.0L petrol(or even 1.8L if I remember correctly) or a massive 6.3L V8 petrol engine. The V8 will always pollute more. So why would it matter, if the V8 is "meeting emissions standards" - it's still poluting more than the 2.0L engine. So my question is - if lying about emissions of the 2.0L engine is "being morally responsible for people dying due to pollution", how is that not true for their 6.3L V8 engines(which are fully compliant, but pollute more nevertheless)?

swombat 11y ago
The difference is that the government has put in place systems to deal with these higher polluting vehicles. It taxes them more, to discourage people from owning them. By lying about the pollution levels, the engineers are encouraging people to own more polluting engines. Not only is this obviously unethical since it involves lying with the purpose of breaking a law, but this law also happens to be designed to try and reduce the deadly effects of pollution. So such behaviour is, I say again, obviously indirectly linked to more people dying.