Just categorizing something does not make a defeating argument. People have always been very good to twist and circumvent ethics and morality when their own gai

Just categorizing something does not make a defeating argument. People have always been very good to twist and circumvent ethics and morality when their own gain is involved. And ethics and morality themselves change every 50 years or so. The option to torture is always present. We must have a good reasons and framework not to do it. Ineffective is way better deterrent than immoral.