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> Not more than any other submission to Hacker News. It's about luck. I agree with your first point. I think it’s about more than just luck, though. > People
by karjaluoto 11y ago
> Not more than any other submission to Hacker News. It's about luck.
I agree with your first point. I think it’s about more than just luck, though.
> People shouldn't be doing this anyways because it doesn't work.
Actually, it does work—but you have to do it a certain way—and it sucks.
- krapp 11y ago>Actually, it does work—but you have to do it a certain way—and it sucks. That will get you banned... so if you're getting away with it, it's probably against your interests to admit to it, much less complain about it.
- karjaluoto 11y agoI think you’re sort of putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that I’m doing that. Nor, do I think it’s something anyone here should be doing. That said, thinking that it doesn’t happen seems somewhat naïve.
- dang 11y ago> Actually, it does work—but you have to do it a certain way I'd be curious to see links to such posts. If you know what some are, would you email them to hn@ycombinator.com?
- karjaluoto 11y agoI don’t have any links. That’s not the sort of thing I keep track of. That said, I’ve spoken with a batch of folks who’ve explained their tricks for getting their stories bumped up. Just from a quick search, though, it doesn’t seem like such discussion is hidden: http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really-works.html http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...
- dang 11y agoI don't think that article discussed voting rings? Also, not all the info there is accurate, and things have changed a lot since then. It's pretty important to HN that "tricks for getting stories bumped up" end up costing more than they benefit. Since I'm one of the people who've worked on this, the engineer in me is eager to see counterexamples, so everybody please email us if you think you see one.
- karjaluoto 11y agoI just skimmed the post I linked to—didn’t read it in depth. (That said, I did bookmark it, to read more thoroughly when I have a moment.) Most of the things I’ve heard have been in personal discussions, so I haven’t seen the actual links. I’m curious: do you see a lot of folks running workarounds/tricks to get to the homepage? Is it something that’s difficult to stop?
- dang 11y agoYes, we see a lot of that and yes it's difficult to stop, but we've put a lot of work into the software and it currently has the upper hand. It's a bit of an arms race though.
- karjaluoto 11y agoI can appreciate that. Seems like a tough thing to keep on top of.