Those are very interesting points. I certainly dont have the answers, and answering these sort of questions correctly is the challenge we are facing. The value

Those are very interesting points. I certainly dont have the answers, and answering these sort of questions correctly is the challenge we are facing. The values we are discussing do necessarily arise along with civilisation and specialisation. Perhaps for inspiration we should look at uncivilised societies, hunter gatherers who certainly must toil for food (hunt and gather) but not actually work per se. I will have a stab at answering your questions with my own answers however.. Q:But how do you determine who gets what and how much of it? A: Everyone gets enough for shelter, food, electricity, education, healthcare, other things which are considered basic necessities. Essentially just give people the basics rather than force them through pointless and wasteful hoops. Q: I might want to produce 10-20 children all from different women. A: I dont really see any problem here, people can choose to have children or not. Unless there is a problem with overpopulation but that is another issue. Generally the trend with more affluence is less children. Q: how do you control people? A: Laws would still exist, and there would need to be police and a judiciary system to enforce them. Obviously there is some work that will always be necessary (farming, military, police, decision-making) Once all of that can be fully automated then humans would be obsolete anyway. ps. This is a very interesting debate that may be relevant at some stage in the future but I'm betting that global industrial society will undergo a significant collapse in the next 50 - 100 years rendering all this moot.