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Platter Crash on an IBM Death Star HD (2003)
- jamesbrownuhh 11y agoPeople would pay good money for that kind of secure erasure if it could be triggered on demand. :)
- kabdib 11y ago... and not by malware :-)
- monochromatic 11y agoDefinitely something you want to trigger by physical contact, not pure software.
- intrasight 11y agoThere was a company which used to make hard drives for the military (perhaps they still do, but nothing on Google) which had a physical pull tab on the back which released an acid into the drive enclosure. Anyone remember this? I read about it perhaps 10 years ago.
- monochromatic 11y agoSounds vaguely familiar to me too.
- CaptSpify 11y agoWas it an acid? I've heard of thermite or magnesium. Same idea though
- intrasight 11y agoI assume was something like acid since it released a liquid into the cavity.
- asadhaider 11y agoWhat was that blue stuff in the drive?
- Bud 11y agoPhlogiston.
- escape_goat 11y agoI believe that it would be lubricant from the hydrodynamic bearing[1] inside the hard drive. [1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_bearing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_bearing ]
- asadhaider 11y agoThanks, that was interesting to read. I take it that helium-filled hard drives work in a similar way?
- Sanddancer 11y agoExact same way. The only difference is that helium is much less dense than air, so there's a lot less drag and thus the drive is more efficient.
- morcheeba 11y agoThat's just glue to hold the shielding plate on. You'll notice its nowhere near the bearings; in fact, it's on the outside of the case.
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- rrrx3 11y agoAhh, I remember this scandal. What's funny is that there were tons of people affected by this from what i recall, because these drives were initially billed as some of the best hardware money could buy.
- jschwartzi 11y agoI actually had one of these disks, and used it as my main system drive for 6 years before finally retiring the entire system.
- geocrasher 11y agoYup some of them were fine. It was only certain capacity disks that had the issue. They solved the primary problem eventually. By then the reputation was already tarnished. "Death Star".
- mjevans 11y agoBack before I could afford the minor increase in cost of ECC ram, and the larger cost of using RAID 1 or 5 or 6; I got bitten by this very issue in my personal hardware. Just one of many times that I've been taught. Any data that is actually /valued/ should have a backup. Redundancy in operation is more a hedge against hardware failure, and unplanned downtime. Integrity costs; pay for it. This is true everywhere.
- aidenn0 11y agoIt's not really a minor increase in cost for ECC ram; the CPU and motherboards that support ECC ram are considerably more expensive. To top it off, many times motherboards cannot support the full capacity of ram with ECC installed; my workstation can accept up to 8GB DIMMs with non-ECC and 4GB DIMMS with ECC.
- serpentor 11y agoSo I guess the disk platters used a glass substrate, coated in a layer of magnetic medium?
- porsupah 11y agoIndeed so. http://www.computerhistory.org/groups/storagesig/media/docs/DS_IBM%2075GXP%20Family_20121031.pdf http://www.computerhistory.org/groups/storagesig/media/docs/... 'The drive, a 7,200RPM Deskstar 75GB drive, was released on 15 March last year [2000]. At the time, the press release announced excitedly that the drive was "the first IBM drive to use glass disk platters instead of aluminium ... allowing the recording head to read smaller bits of information that are packed more closely together. In addition, glass disks are more stable at higher speeds".'
- geocrasher 11y agoI remember tearing into one of these that died, and found similar things. What was interesting too was that it seemed to be caused by a screw coming loose. The entire head assembly rides on a bearing, which is bolted to the chassis, usually on both ends. If I remember right, this one was only bolted on one end, the screw didn't have any thread locking compound on it. It came loose, instant head crash.
- PhasmaFelis 11y ago> was asked to see if we could determine the cause of the crash, as well as to determine if it would be possible to recover any of the data on the drive. If it had been possible, it would have ceased being so after you took it apart at your desk!
- Confusion 11y agoUntrue. I once opened up a hard disk, left it open for a day, closed it up again and used it without errors for another year (though never for important data). And no, not this was not inside a cleanroom.
- jloughry 11y agoI wonder how many bits each particle of dust represented?