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It would make no sense if a Type 2 Civilization this close to earth did nothing to us.

by wangii 11y ago

flatline 11y ago
1480 light years away...it's just too far for practical travel on any sort of scale, and I assume scale would be required to "do something" to us beyond taking a glance - and even that seems far-fetched.
- wangii 11y ago
  Assuming a Type 2 civilization has 10x population of the earth, each individual of it would consumes more energy than all of human beings combined. It's reasonable to suggest that light-year to it would be less challenging than AU to us.
poelzi 11y ago
What should they do ? Mining minerals ? Nobody mines minerals in on a planet, you use asteroids for that. Microgravity will make separation easier. Occupying another planet ? Everybody with understanding of history knows that it does not work, endless conflicts, suffering, problem, etc. Makes no sense, just take another one. But our planet is so special!! No its not, even our next neighbors have statistically speaking one habitable planet. Just because we only see the huge gas planets with our current observation tech does not mean there are not many smaller ones. Remember 15 years ago, they were unsure if planets in other systems did even exist, now we have 1000s found. To far away ? ~ 1480 ly is not easily done, you need a type 2 spaceship with double fields which gives you restrictions on the minimum size and still there will be some upper limit on the travel speed for complex biological system like us. We have currently only type 0 spaceships (impulse based). EM-Drive is a type 1 thruster, but a very bad one. How fast you can be there really depends on your tech, it can be from 16h - 100s of years. Just because you don't know if they are not doing anything, does not make it so. Its not a valid deduction. Anyway, don't worry, most of the Galaxy is very friendly and we are the Klingon-Ferengi type of idiot the rest is laughing about. If somebody wanted, they would have overtaken us already. Everything we have are toys compared to whats possible. Conflicts would just be so devastating, nobody would win. War never has winners, someone just looses more then the other, something we as a species still have not understood.

It would make no sense if a Type 2 Civilization this close to earth did nothing to us.

by wangii 11y ago

It would make no sense if a Type 2 Civilization this close to earth did nothing to us.

1480 light years away...it's just too far for practical travel on any sort of scale, and I assume scale would be required to "do something" to us beyond taking a glance - and even that seems far-fetched.

wangii 11y ago
Assuming a Type 2 civilization has 10x population of the earth, each individual of it would consumes more energy than all of human beings combined. It's reasonable to suggest that light-year to it would be less challenging than AU to us.

poelzi 11y ago

What should they do ? Mining minerals ? Nobody mines minerals in on a planet, you use asteroids for that. Microgravity will make separation easier. Occupying another planet ? Everybody with understanding of history knows that it does not work, endless conflicts, suffering, problem, etc. Makes no sense, just take another one. But our planet is so special!! No its not, even our next neighbors have statistically speaking one habitable planet. Just because we only see the huge gas planets with our current observation tech does not mean there are not many smaller ones. Remember 15 years ago, they were unsure if planets in other systems did even exist, now we have 1000s found. To far away ? ~ 1480 ly is not easily done, you need a type 2 spaceship with double fields which gives you restrictions on the minimum size and still there will be some upper limit on the travel speed for complex biological system like us. We have currently only type 0 spaceships (impulse based). EM-Drive is a type 1 thruster, but a very bad one. How fast you can be there really depends on your tech, it can be from 16h - 100s of years. Just because you don't know if they are not doing anything, does not make it so. Its not a valid deduction. Anyway, don't worry, most of the Galaxy is very friendly and we are the Klingon-Ferengi type of idiot the rest is laughing about. If somebody wanted, they would have overtaken us already. Everything we have are toys compared to whats possible. Conflicts would just be so devastating, nobody would win. War never has winners, someone just looses more then the other, something we as a species still have not understood.