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There is a German firm which goes by the name Beringer. They cloned a genelec model: http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_b2031a_truth_aktivmonitor.htm http://www

by cJ0th 11y ago

There is a German firm which goes by the name Beringer. They cloned a genelec model: http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_b2031a_truth_aktivmonitor.htm http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_b2031a_truth_aktivmonitor... Many people refuse to acknowledge that you can work professionally with their products. However, I've seen those speakers in many studios where professional work gets done.

vlehto 11y ago
I have audion engineer friend who has love/hate relationship with Behringer. Some years back they had quality problems. Good behringer is good, but you might get a bad specimen too. I have experience with their cheap end mixer, and it was good until it started to slowly break down. One component at the time. Luckily it had some excess potential, so in terms of play hours/price it was still OK.
- radiowave 11y ago
  My assessment of Behringer is much the same. Sometimes it's fine to use their stuff, sometimes it's worth paying more. One problem though is that the existence of a company like Behringer making cheap products that are often good enough, is that it can tend to destroy the mid-market stuff that used to exist. Once that happens, your choice is either to buy something dirt cheap, or some ridiculously expensive "boutique" item, because there's nothing left in between any more. (I'm not suggesting this is Behringer's fault, it just seems to be how things go when a mass market comes along.)
conradfr 11y ago
To add to what vlehto said : Behringer was somehow the "China of the music & audio world" : cheap clones of more expensive pro gears. While usually visually decent, it could be hit or miss soundwise. Mic preamps, guitar pedals or cabinets were bad for example while monitors (like the one you linked) were OK for the price. Recently they bought companies like Midas and TC Electronics and I think their products have been getting better. Not enough for me to consider them usually but still :) About speakers the real problem will only be the room and the benefits of expensive speakers are usually wasted because of that. There is only so much you can do treat a living room without cluttering it. The WAF of bass traps is not high.
- fit2rule 11y ago
  The reason Behringer is so loathed in the pro audio community is that they are notorious for cloning other peoples products - literally opening up the competition, seeing whats inside, and reproducing the design - with cheaper components - "in China" and so on. So while we do get cheaper products that are 'good enough' from Behringer, for a long time they had a deleterious effect on the industry - I know of a number of products that didn't make it to market because it was known that Behringer would clone the design ..
alsetmusic 11y ago
I've listened to Genelecs through a Beringer mixer followed by an Allen and Heath mixer. The former produced a weak and disappointing sound. The latter was full, detailed, and sonically impressive. The conclusion was that the Beringer mixer was a weak link. I was also disappointed by a second Beringer mixer as well as a DI box by Beringer around the same time. I wouldn't consider them high quality by any stretch of the term. They are probably acceptable when entering the market, but don't belong with components in the $100k - $1m range that this article is addressing.
timc3 11y ago
Behringer Truths are not bad for the price, but Genelecs are usually better for most rooms. But I think there are usually (and not in all cases) better options than Genelecs depending on budget and usage. I for instance prefer EVE, because I can’t quite bring my budget up to ATCs or Barefoots. JBL LSR range is also a low cost budget monitor champ. These are also studio monitors by the way, so they are not always great for hifi listening - I use separate speakers for that.

by cJ0th 11y ago

vlehto 11y ago

I have audion engineer friend who has love/hate relationship with Behringer. Some years back they had quality problems. Good behringer is good, but you might get a bad specimen too. I have experience with their cheap end mixer, and it was good until it started to slowly break down. One component at the time. Luckily it had some excess potential, so in terms of play hours/price it was still OK.

radiowave 11y ago
My assessment of Behringer is much the same. Sometimes it's fine to use their stuff, sometimes it's worth paying more. One problem though is that the existence of a company like Behringer making cheap products that are often good enough, is that it can tend to destroy the mid-market stuff that used to exist. Once that happens, your choice is either to buy something dirt cheap, or some ridiculously expensive "boutique" item, because there's nothing left in between any more. (I'm not suggesting this is Behringer's fault, it just seems to be how things go when a mass market comes along.)

conradfr 11y ago

To add to what vlehto said : Behringer was somehow the "China of the music & audio world" : cheap clones of more expensive pro gears. While usually visually decent, it could be hit or miss soundwise. Mic preamps, guitar pedals or cabinets were bad for example while monitors (like the one you linked) were OK for the price. Recently they bought companies like Midas and TC Electronics and I think their products have been getting better. Not enough for me to consider them usually but still :) About speakers the real problem will only be the room and the benefits of expensive speakers are usually wasted because of that. There is only so much you can do treat a living room without cluttering it. The WAF of bass traps is not high.

fit2rule 11y ago
The reason Behringer is so loathed in the pro audio community is that they are notorious for cloning other peoples products - literally opening up the competition, seeing whats inside, and reproducing the design - with cheaper components - "in China" and so on. So while we do get cheaper products that are 'good enough' from Behringer, for a long time they had a deleterious effect on the industry - I know of a number of products that didn't make it to market because it was known that Behringer would clone the design ..

alsetmusic 11y ago

I've listened to Genelecs through a Beringer mixer followed by an Allen and Heath mixer. The former produced a weak and disappointing sound. The latter was full, detailed, and sonically impressive. The conclusion was that the Beringer mixer was a weak link. I was also disappointed by a second Beringer mixer as well as a DI box by Beringer around the same time. I wouldn't consider them high quality by any stretch of the term. They are probably acceptable when entering the market, but don't belong with components in the $100k - $1m range that this article is addressing.

timc3 11y ago

Behringer Truths are not bad for the price, but Genelecs are usually better for most rooms. But I think there are usually (and not in all cases) better options than Genelecs depending on budget and usage. I for instance prefer EVE, because I can’t quite bring my budget up to ATCs or Barefoots. JBL LSR range is also a low cost budget monitor champ. These are also studio monitors by the way, so they are not always great for hifi listening - I use separate speakers for that.