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> I said there's nothing wrong or particularly wasteful with the office. Just because you said there's nothing wrong or particularly wasteful with the office d

> I said there's nothing wrong or particularly wasteful with the office. Just because you said there's nothing wrong or particularly wasteful with the office doesn't mean others agree. Outside of bubbleland, most people are going to struggle to understand why the CEO of a company that almost certainly doesn't have a cent of profit spent any time whatsoever thinking about how he could avoid "boring noise panels." "Why not make this a piece of art as well on the ceiling?" Really? When will folks learn[1]? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9778832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9778832

argonaut 11y ago
And you know it was he who personally spent his time buying those noise panels (and not, say, the office manager) because...? My broader point is people are just trying to find any excuse to uncharitably interpret anything just so they can to crap on the company.
- 7Figures2Commas 11y ago
  "One of the things I wanted to sort of like inspire people with that worked here is you always feel beautiful while you're here." Those are the words of the chief interior designer himself. Bottom line: this company crapped on itself. You're deluding yourself if you truly believe office managers are driving decisions to waste time and money on stupid sh*t like beautiful noise panels.
  - argonaut 11y ago
    He doesn't actually say he bought the panels. In that sentence he's talking about something he thinks is a company value.
  - chejazi 11y ago
    It's easy to criticize a figure who has made mistakes over his/her values that are unrelated to those mistakes. It seems that may be happening here.
x0x0 11y ago
My god, it might have cost thousands (THOUSANDS!!!) of dollars to install some noise panels on the ceiling to cut down on noise.
- 7Figures2Commas 11y ago
  It doesn't matter how much it cost. It's about priorities. If you watch the video and get the sense that this company's founder has his priorities straight, maybe you can chip in and buy the next set of panels. On second thought, it appears that the office is going to be pretty quiet soon enough.
  - x0x0 11y ago
    He probably spent hours (invaluable hours!) thinking about those ceiling panels. I dunno, should their office be a hovel? Because you appear to have some sort of issue with this founder outside his attempt to make their office a nice place to work. And why on earth would I finance ceiling tile purchases for some random company? There's something wrong with you. ps -- while it's fine to be surprised at companies lighting money on fire, gloating about a company laying people off is all class.
    - 7Figures2Commas 11y ago
      > He probably spent hours (invaluable hours!) thinking about those ceiling panels. When you run an unprofitable company that subsists on investor money, every single hour of leadership's time is invaluable. > I dunno, should their office be a hovel? So the choice for startups is a) a swagged-out office in one of the most expensive commercial real estate markets or b) hovel? What world do you live in? > Because you appear to have some sort of issue with this founder outside his attempt to make their office a nice place to work. You're free to believe this office represents a modest attempt at creating "a nice place to work," but outside of bubbleland, most people will see excess. By the way, "a nice place to work" is just as much about how people are treated and interact with each other than it is about all of the "stuff" that gets put in the office. Unfortunately, leadership teams at many early-stage startups today don't seem to recognize this. > And why on earth would I finance ceiling tile purchases for some random company? It's only "THOUSANDS!!!" of dollars. You seemed genuinely concerned by the noise levels. > while it's fine to be surprised at companies lighting money on fire, gloating about a company laying people off is all class. I started my career at a dot bomb in the first boom/bust, so I have been on the other side. It taught me one of the best and most profitable lessons of my life: don't work for people who seem better at spending money than making it. Hopefully some of the younger folks who get laid off for the first time in this cycle will come away with lessons of their own that will help them avoid being fooled again in the future. Finally, you seem to be missing the fact that lots of people are not surprised startups today are lighting money on fire. We see it every day, and many of us frequently point it out. What baffles me is that folks like you are surprised at where this leads and indignant when somebody points out that a bad outcome was more than likely. Shouldn't your indignation be directed at the people who are responsible for the incompetence, excess and waste?

argonaut 11y ago

And you know it was he who personally spent his time buying those noise panels (and not, say, the office manager) because...? My broader point is people are just trying to find any excuse to uncharitably interpret anything just so they can to crap on the company.

7Figures2Commas 11y ago
"One of the things I wanted to sort of like inspire people with that worked here is you always feel beautiful while you're here." Those are the words of the chief interior designer himself. Bottom line: this company crapped on itself. You're deluding yourself if you truly believe office managers are driving decisions to waste time and money on stupid sh*t like beautiful noise panels.
- argonaut 11y ago
  He doesn't actually say he bought the panels. In that sentence he's talking about something he thinks is a company value.
- chejazi 11y ago
  It's easy to criticize a figure who has made mistakes over his/her values that are unrelated to those mistakes. It seems that may be happening here.

x0x0 11y ago

My god, it might have cost thousands (THOUSANDS!!!) of dollars to install some noise panels on the ceiling to cut down on noise.

7Figures2Commas 11y ago
It doesn't matter how much it cost. It's about priorities. If you watch the video and get the sense that this company's founder has his priorities straight, maybe you can chip in and buy the next set of panels. On second thought, it appears that the office is going to be pretty quiet soon enough.
- x0x0 11y ago
  He probably spent hours (invaluable hours!) thinking about those ceiling panels. I dunno, should their office be a hovel? Because you appear to have some sort of issue with this founder outside his attempt to make their office a nice place to work. And why on earth would I finance ceiling tile purchases for some random company? There's something wrong with you. ps -- while it's fine to be surprised at companies lighting money on fire, gloating about a company laying people off is all class.
  - 7Figures2Commas 11y ago
    > He probably spent hours (invaluable hours!) thinking about those ceiling panels. When you run an unprofitable company that subsists on investor money, every single hour of leadership's time is invaluable. > I dunno, should their office be a hovel? So the choice for startups is a) a swagged-out office in one of the most expensive commercial real estate markets or b) hovel? What world do you live in? > Because you appear to have some sort of issue with this founder outside his attempt to make their office a nice place to work. You're free to believe this office represents a modest attempt at creating "a nice place to work," but outside of bubbleland, most people will see excess. By the way, "a nice place to work" is just as much about how people are treated and interact with each other than it is about all of the "stuff" that gets put in the office. Unfortunately, leadership teams at many early-stage startups today don't seem to recognize this. > And why on earth would I finance ceiling tile purchases for some random company? It's only "THOUSANDS!!!" of dollars. You seemed genuinely concerned by the noise levels. > while it's fine to be surprised at companies lighting money on fire, gloating about a company laying people off is all class. I started my career at a dot bomb in the first boom/bust, so I have been on the other side. It taught me one of the best and most profitable lessons of my life: don't work for people who seem better at spending money than making it. Hopefully some of the younger folks who get laid off for the first time in this cycle will come away with lessons of their own that will help them avoid being fooled again in the future. Finally, you seem to be missing the fact that lots of people are not surprised startups today are lighting money on fire. We see it every day, and many of us frequently point it out. What baffles me is that folks like you are surprised at where this leads and indignant when somebody points out that a bad outcome was more than likely. Shouldn't your indignation be directed at the people who are responsible for the incompetence, excess and waste?