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Just a little less of mainstream would be nice! I don't mean things like what is happening with Google and China right now but in general there is too much main

by yannis 17y ago

Just a little less of mainstream would be nice! I don't mean things like what is happening with Google and China right now but in general there is too much mainstream.

jacquesm 17y ago
Right now the original google & China posting is at 1087 points, the runner up is the posting by dfranke about hacking HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976 If anything that is a really good indication how big the karma inflation really is. Dfranke spent a lot of time and effort to come up with a brilliant hack, used every trick in the book and was rightfully the top HN posting of all times. A virtually unknown HN users posts a blog posting from googles official blog and aces the previous #1 (and will probably go up a lot further still). So much for the theory that submissions get voted up to 'what they're worth'.
- ErrantX 17y ago
  A virtually unknown HN users posts a blog posting from googles official blog and aces the previous #1 (and will probably go up a lot further still). So much for the theory that submissions get voted up to 'what they're worth'. I'd say that is proof that who the poster is doesn't factor into how people are voting on a threads worth. I'd call dfranke's thread an exception to that rule. (it depends on your feeling of worth; the HN hack was extremely impressive and clearly, locally, worth lots of votes and kudos. On the other hand the Google announcement is huge news for lots of the tech world :) )
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Yes, but knowing about it was pretty much unavoidable. It is about as mainstream as it gets. Not that I didn't get a few valuable insights from the discussion here but still, HN is interesting because it has the other stuff, not the mainstream stuff. (or maybe both?)
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      Both I think. Most of the other commentary elsewhere about Google.cn has been mundane (or "OMG ROXXORS") :)
  - robryan 17y ago
    There are definatly a lot more people now, stuff of limited interest can pull 100 or more upvotes, I guess a better way to compare would be upvotes / active users. The graph should only count things that have reached at least 50 karma, or even maybe 100 recently.
- davidw 17y ago
  I have started paying attention to this: I tend to vote up people who have done something, whether it's a company, a cool hack, or something along those lines. If a "blah blah" post like the Google one has already got a lot of votes, I'll tend not to vote for it (especially since there's no classification filter or anything like that), even if I like it. I also tend not to vote for stuff if it's already in the top 5 spots - what's the point? I'd rather let other things bubble up.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    That's pretty close to how I upvote submissions as well. I also upvote Ask HN style postings if they are anywhere near on topic because I think that's a great use of the community (most of the time), and I try to answer them whenever I can.

by yannis 17y ago

Just a little less of mainstream would be nice! I don't mean things like what is happening with Google and China right now but in general there is too much mainstream.

jacquesm 17y ago

Right now the original google & China posting is at 1087 points, the runner up is the posting by dfranke about hacking HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=639976 If anything that is a really good indication how big the karma inflation really is. Dfranke spent a lot of time and effort to come up with a brilliant hack, used every trick in the book and was rightfully the top HN posting of all times. A virtually unknown HN users posts a blog posting from googles official blog and aces the previous #1 (and will probably go up a lot further still). So much for the theory that submissions get voted up to 'what they're worth'.

ErrantX 17y ago
A virtually unknown HN users posts a blog posting from googles official blog and aces the previous #1 (and will probably go up a lot further still). So much for the theory that submissions get voted up to 'what they're worth'. I'd say that is proof that who the poster is doesn't factor into how people are voting on a threads worth. I'd call dfranke's thread an exception to that rule. (it depends on your feeling of worth; the HN hack was extremely impressive and clearly, locally, worth lots of votes and kudos. On the other hand the Google announcement is huge news for lots of the tech world :) )
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Yes, but knowing about it was pretty much unavoidable. It is about as mainstream as it gets. Not that I didn't get a few valuable insights from the discussion here but still, HN is interesting because it has the other stuff, not the mainstream stuff. (or maybe both?)
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    Both I think. Most of the other commentary elsewhere about Google.cn has been mundane (or "OMG ROXXORS") :)
- robryan 17y ago
  There are definatly a lot more people now, stuff of limited interest can pull 100 or more upvotes, I guess a better way to compare would be upvotes / active users. The graph should only count things that have reached at least 50 karma, or even maybe 100 recently.
davidw 17y ago
I have started paying attention to this: I tend to vote up people who have done something, whether it's a company, a cool hack, or something along those lines. If a "blah blah" post like the Google one has already got a lot of votes, I'll tend not to vote for it (especially since there's no classification filter or anything like that), even if I like it. I also tend not to vote for stuff if it's already in the top 5 spots - what's the point? I'd rather let other things bubble up.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  That's pretty close to how I upvote submissions as well. I also upvote Ask HN style postings if they are anywhere near on topic because I think that's a great use of the community (most of the time), and I try to answer them whenever I can.