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We've always had anonymous money: Cash and money laundering Regions like Scandanavia are trying to eliminate anonymous money. If you eliminate anonymous money

by zmanian 11y ago

We've always had anonymous money: Cash and money laundering Regions like Scandanavia are trying to eliminate anonymous money. If you eliminate anonymous money, it is unclear how freedom of speech, religion, inquiry etc can be preserved. Anonymous money is always going to be less convenient that paying in the clear. But it should exist. Good Luck Electric Coiners

mathgeek 11y ago
> We've always had anonymous money: Cash and money laundering Consider that if the money was truly anonymous, we wouldn't be able to use serial numbers to track down who used it.
- themetrician 11y ago
  Cash has existed for a lot longer time than cash-with-a-serial-number.
  - mathgeek 11y ago
    True, but to what purpose does that serve us today?
- declan 11y ago
  Silver and gold and other coins, without serial numbers, have existed as a store of value for far longer than pieces of paper or linen with serial numbers. People have used anonymous money in the form of coins for millennia. It wasn't until the 1860s that the first one-dollar bill in the U.S. was printed with serial numbers. For ~95% of the time that money has existed, it has been what you would call "truly anonymous." If you go back to pre-coin history and use weights of silver as opposed to minted or hammered coins, you're looking at maybe 153 years of serial numbers vs. about 5,000 years of non-serial numbers. "Truly anonymous money" is the historic norm; the current situation with numbers printed on paper/linen/plastic is something of a historical aberration.
- aqme28 11y ago
  But you can't do that with current paper money unless stores start regularly scanning money as it enters the cash register. Even if the bank gives me a tracked 20, I can easily "launder" it by using it to buy something. Now I have $19 in anonymous cash and stick of gum.
mintplant 11y ago
You seem to be making proclamations here without really saying much.

by zmanian 11y ago

mathgeek 11y ago

> We've always had anonymous money: Cash and money laundering Consider that if the money was truly anonymous, we wouldn't be able to use serial numbers to track down who used it.

themetrician 11y ago
Cash has existed for a lot longer time than cash-with-a-serial-number.
- mathgeek 11y ago
  True, but to what purpose does that serve us today?
declan 11y ago
Silver and gold and other coins, without serial numbers, have existed as a store of value for far longer than pieces of paper or linen with serial numbers. People have used anonymous money in the form of coins for millennia. It wasn't until the 1860s that the first one-dollar bill in the U.S. was printed with serial numbers. For ~95% of the time that money has existed, it has been what you would call "truly anonymous." If you go back to pre-coin history and use weights of silver as opposed to minted or hammered coins, you're looking at maybe 153 years of serial numbers vs. about 5,000 years of non-serial numbers. "Truly anonymous money" is the historic norm; the current situation with numbers printed on paper/linen/plastic is something of a historical aberration.
aqme28 11y ago
But you can't do that with current paper money unless stores start regularly scanning money as it enters the cash register. Even if the bank gives me a tracked 20, I can easily "launder" it by using it to buy something. Now I have $19 in anonymous cash and stick of gum.

mintplant 11y ago

You seem to be making proclamations here without really saying much.