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>"there's a .04 probability that there's no effect and the results occurred by chance." No, the p value is the probability of observing a result at least as ex
by nonbel 11y ago
>"there's a .04 probability that there's no effect and the results occurred by chance."
No, the p value is the probability of observing a result at least as extreme as your own given the null hypothesis is true. There are two errors here
1) Transposing the conditional: P(A|B) != P(B|A)
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_inverse http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confusion_of_the_inverse
2) Deviations from the null hypothesis can occur even the absence of a treatment effect, ie one of your model assumptions is wrong, baseline differences, etc.
Anyway, that is why instead of statistical significance researchers need to estimate the size of the effect. If you estimate the effect is in the range -1 to +2 then you publish that result. Others also estimate the range and see if these are consistent with each other.
- DennisP 11y ago> probability of observing a result at least as extreme as your own given the null hypothesis is true. My wording was poor but that's what I meant.
- nonbel 11y agoThey are two completely different things. Check out the link. Would you accidentally say "It's cloudy therefore there is a high probability of rain" when you meant "It's raining so there is a high probability of clouds"?