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I don't see what is bizarre about the argument at all. It doesn't discount that it's illegal and wrong now, it only speculates that the increase in availability

I don't see what is bizarre about the argument at all. It doesn't discount that it's illegal and wrong now, it only speculates that the increase in availability will increase the incidence of these actions. Could you expand on how this is not so?

yodsanklai 11y ago
> it only speculates that the increase in availability will increase the incidence of these actions. 1 - not sure there will be an increase in availability. I don't know if it's always the case, but where I live, any kid can find weed easily. Ironically, it may be more difficult for adults! 2 - My understanding is that kids in the netherlands (where cannabis can be legally bought) don't consume more cannabis that those from neighbor countries.
- cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
  >I don't know if it's always the case, but where I live, any kid can find weed easily. Ironically, it may be more difficult for adults! This has been my experience. When I was at university there was cannabis everywhere, it was relatively cheap, and finding someone that was willing to sell to you was very easy. When I left university and started working (even still living near the same university) my schedule would have made it more difficult to obtain (as the hours where I was awake did not often overlap with the hours of my friends who smoked pot or would be willing to provide it). Now it is even more difficult to obtain (having moved across town) because everybody I knew that used cannabis have stopped because they're in a career that drug tests and everyone else that sells it would want some sort of a reference (which I don't have).
filoeleven 11y ago
Legalization with regulation tends to make it harder to obtain the product illegally. It's easier for kids in most of the US to get cannabis than it is for them to get alcohol, for example, because the legal, regulated market for alcohol makes selling it illegally largely unprofitable and therefore a much less attractive practice to engage in. This despite the far greater general availability of alcohol.
- intopieces 11y ago
  Do you have any citations for this? My personal experience was totally the opposite. I could always get an over 21 friend to run to the liquor store and get me whatever I wanted. Scoring weed was texting a friend of a friend and hoping for the best.
  - forloop 11y ago
    I would argue it's better if children had more access—under the condition they're using it as a substitute for alcohol. Alcohol is a more damaging drug. Making less harmful drugs illegal, and the more harmful drugs legal is backwards. Ideally, no children would have access to recreational drugs under any circumstances. However, we don't live in that world. We live in the real world.
  - dota_fanatic 11y ago
    The difference is that dealers are your own age, and could be found as early as 7th grade. Having a "friend" that's over 21 that is willing to take time to buy alcohol illegally for you? Young people will find it easier to find a weed dealer their own age than one that's 21+ AND willing to do something illegal for them (provide alcohol to a minor).

yodsanklai 11y ago

> it only speculates that the increase in availability will increase the incidence of these actions. 1 - not sure there will be an increase in availability. I don't know if it's always the case, but where I live, any kid can find weed easily. Ironically, it may be more difficult for adults! 2 - My understanding is that kids in the netherlands (where cannabis can be legally bought) don't consume more cannabis that those from neighbor countries.

cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
>I don't know if it's always the case, but where I live, any kid can find weed easily. Ironically, it may be more difficult for adults! This has been my experience. When I was at university there was cannabis everywhere, it was relatively cheap, and finding someone that was willing to sell to you was very easy. When I left university and started working (even still living near the same university) my schedule would have made it more difficult to obtain (as the hours where I was awake did not often overlap with the hours of my friends who smoked pot or would be willing to provide it). Now it is even more difficult to obtain (having moved across town) because everybody I knew that used cannabis have stopped because they're in a career that drug tests and everyone else that sells it would want some sort of a reference (which I don't have).

filoeleven 11y ago

Legalization with regulation tends to make it harder to obtain the product illegally. It's easier for kids in most of the US to get cannabis than it is for them to get alcohol, for example, because the legal, regulated market for alcohol makes selling it illegally largely unprofitable and therefore a much less attractive practice to engage in. This despite the far greater general availability of alcohol.

intopieces 11y ago
Do you have any citations for this? My personal experience was totally the opposite. I could always get an over 21 friend to run to the liquor store and get me whatever I wanted. Scoring weed was texting a friend of a friend and hoping for the best.
- forloop 11y ago
  I would argue it's better if children had more access—under the condition they're using it as a substitute for alcohol. Alcohol is a more damaging drug. Making less harmful drugs illegal, and the more harmful drugs legal is backwards. Ideally, no children would have access to recreational drugs under any circumstances. However, we don't live in that world. We live in the real world.
- dota_fanatic 11y ago
  The difference is that dealers are your own age, and could be found as early as 7th grade. Having a "friend" that's over 21 that is willing to take time to buy alcohol illegally for you? Young people will find it easier to find a weed dealer their own age than one that's 21+ AND willing to do something illegal for them (provide alcohol to a minor).