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Maybe this is suprising to the HN crowd, but there are many people who would never want to move to OSX from Windows (or Linux). I had to use OSX for two years,

Maybe this is suprising to the HN crowd, but there are many people who would never want to move to OSX from Windows (or Linux). I had to use OSX for two years, the only compelling part of it is the proper *nix shell, other than that, it was very unconvenient (and slow) for me (on a top-end MBP).

ago 11y ago
Same here, I only use it because I have to make my applications work on OS-X and to me it is the worst operating system that I've ever had the opportunity to try. I took my time to learn how to do things the OS-X way, but I prefer Linux or Windows a lot. There are things like about it though, like the self-contained application packages, although you can have them on Linux as well, just not as unified.
alimbada 11y ago
Agreed. I've used Windows since 3.1 (MS-DOS before that) and I bought a Macbook a few years ago to learn iOS development. I dabbled with Linux as a desktop OS for a few years too (but that's another story for another time...). As a generally keyboard-centric user I've found OS X to be awful. Inconsistent behaviour when using Cmd+Tab (which switches to most recently used app) versus Cmd+` (which cycles through app windows instead) is frustrating to say the least. Finder is vastly inferior to Windows Explorer and I find myself dropping into the shell way too much just to do simple file management tasks (cut and paste anyone?). Being unable to tile, snap or maximise windows is also rather frustrating; yes, you can fullscreen an app and yes, you can drag and drop another window onto a fullscreen app [in El Capitan] to tile them side by side but that's so clunky it's almost a joke when on Windows I can hold down the Win key and use the arrow keys to snap windows to the screen edges. I could go on, but I'll stop there...
smt88 11y ago
I like Windows, too. I've been using it exclusively for a few months after being on Linux and OS X for years. I hated OS X, but that seems like a personal preference (I rarely come across people who hate it). I was asking because disabling Windows Update (which someone has corrected me, this tool does not do) seems more extreme than switching to a different OS.

ago 11y ago

Same here, I only use it because I have to make my applications work on OS-X and to me it is the worst operating system that I've ever had the opportunity to try. I took my time to learn how to do things the OS-X way, but I prefer Linux or Windows a lot. There are things like about it though, like the self-contained application packages, although you can have them on Linux as well, just not as unified.

alimbada 11y ago

Agreed. I've used Windows since 3.1 (MS-DOS before that) and I bought a Macbook a few years ago to learn iOS development. I dabbled with Linux as a desktop OS for a few years too (but that's another story for another time...). As a generally keyboard-centric user I've found OS X to be awful. Inconsistent behaviour when using Cmd+Tab (which switches to most recently used app) versus Cmd+` (which cycles through app windows instead) is frustrating to say the least. Finder is vastly inferior to Windows Explorer and I find myself dropping into the shell way too much just to do simple file management tasks (cut and paste anyone?). Being unable to tile, snap or maximise windows is also rather frustrating; yes, you can fullscreen an app and yes, you can drag and drop another window onto a fullscreen app [in El Capitan] to tile them side by side but that's so clunky it's almost a joke when on Windows I can hold down the Win key and use the arrow keys to snap windows to the screen edges. I could go on, but I'll stop there...

smt88 11y ago

I like Windows, too. I've been using it exclusively for a few months after being on Linux and OS X for years. I hated OS X, but that seems like a personal preference (I rarely come across people who hate it). I was asking because disabling Windows Update (which someone has corrected me, this tool does not do) seems more extreme than switching to a different OS.